Fire Dragon Vs Rubber Monkey

[1997KD]

>100 year quest Natsu

>Dressorsa arc Luffy

High 7-A version

Speed equalized


Natsu :

Luffy :

(Pls don't comment anything stupid which isn't related to match up, sorry I'm being rude here)

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Ugh... this matchup again, what does Luffy even scale to

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

I doubt Luffy is going to stay High 7-A, several calcs are being discussed atm.

 

[The_Calaca]

Again with this?

 

[HenryWong122]

Do you know what happens to rubber when you heat it up? It contractes and then it melts.

 

[The_Calaca]

Good thing Luffy has ever showed such weakness.

 

[HenryWong122]

This starts and Natsu smacks Luffy around until Luffy enters Gear 4th and then they'll fight evenly.

 

[The_Calaca]

Standard Battle Assumptions. Luffy starts in G4.

 

[HenryWong122]

Standard Battle Assumptions. Luffy starts in G4.

What does SBA mean for Natsu?

How good is Luffy Resistance to Fire Manipulation? \

 

[The_Calaca]

OP doesn't specify so Natsu is using Ignia's power. Aka lolstomp.

 

[HenryWong122]

OP doesn't specify so Natsu is using Ignia's power. Aka lolstomp.

As an Earth Rabbit, I found a fight between a Fire Dragon and a Rubber Monkey to be hilarious and I find that to be hilarious.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

"Ummmm, Rubber can Melt at hot Temperatures"

One word, Akainu

If he couldn't Melt Luffy, Natsu can't, that argument doesn't work here

On another note, Fire Dragon King Mode alone stomps

 

[The_Calaca]

Mitch is right. OP should specify this is Base Natsu only.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

I've said it before on a different but Natsu vs Luffy is always one sided. Luffy pretty much stomps if they have similar AP and durability since he's resistant to Natsu's entire arsenal or Natsu stomps through sheer AP. This isn't a good match up no matter how you look at it. Also if anyone plans on doing OP vs FT please use Pre Time Skip characters, things likely won't be the same after we finish the revisions for the Post Time Skip characters.

 

[Schnee_One]

"Ummmm, Rubber can Melt at hot Temperatures"

One word, Akainu

If he couldn't Melt Luffy, Natsu can't, that argument doesn't work here

On another note, Fire Dragon King Mode alone stomps

TBF that depends on the feats of heat both have

Even if Akainu is stronger then this Luffy if Natsu's heat has better feats it should still hurt

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Gotta agree mostly with Rin on this, now by no means do I think Luffy stomps Natsu, even with Fire Resistance, Natsu has overheated people with Fire Resistance, but otherwise yeah, Natsu has no counter to Haki and is basically a dragon ball z character where it's all about overpowering the opponent with raw power, regardless this match specifically is not great and it's boring and repetitive, it's also always heated

On another note, Rin, what's Luffy Gonna be with new revisions, you're going back to assuming the planet isn't earth sized right, my guess for Luffy is 6-C to High 6-C

 

[The_Calaca]

Like 6-C at best atm. I'm not Rin tho ovo.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

6-C for Luffy is what I always thought he should be at least, I had no calc to back it up, but still, him being at that level just sounds correct

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Honestly? I've got no clue, there's several calcs going around, Kuzans freezing the ocean, Whitebeard and Blackbeard's feats, Fujitora's and his meteorites and the issues with the Birdcage calc. If the Birdcage calc is dealt with and once we get the planet size in order Luffy should be either High 7-A+ to somewhere in 6-C. Speed is gonna be pretty insane however, Luffy has a high end MHS+ feat and I'm not sure if he'll scale to the Relativistic+ stuff.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yeah, in the best case scenario with everything solved, then he might be high in the 6-C or High 6-C. Who knows.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yeah, in the best case scenario with everything solved, then he might be high in the 6-C or High 6-C. Who knows.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I used to care whether or not Natsu was stronger than Luffy, but then I realized how strong a character is doesn't really matter, yeah, Natsu's stronger for now, but One Piece will likely take the route of the big three and bring Luffy to tier 5, I care more about the character more now than the strength

That's why I hate this matchup, it's just always a popularity contest more than a power contest

 

[The_Calaca]

Inb4 the OP Earth ends up being Solar System sized and not even Naruto ends holding a change against EoS Luffy.

 

[1997KD]

Shit forget to edit tiers

 

[1997KD]

My mistake both at high 7-A, aka base 100year quest natsu, and whatever high 7-A form luffy

 

[HenryWong122]

Okay, so i'll ask again, How good is Luffy Resistance to Fire Manipulation?

 

[Captain_Torch]

@Rin

Wait what MHS+ feat does Luffy have?

Also, I'm afraid that Luffy won't scale to 6-C for now, given how the only 6-C feats in the verse so far are from admirals/yonko tier(excluding Enel's Raigo)

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

It's him reacting to Kizaru along with the other Supernova's on Sabaody. 6-C id is a possibility with The Birdcage and the planet size once we get there

 

[KobsterHope07]

Speed Thread is still needed to be done but if it is accepted then Dressrosa Luffy is beyond that of Mach 6670.

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