Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

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Mist does exist in Dissidia's world though

Hmmm... Opera Omnia had slip my mind. There's also locations of Ivalice itself like Orbonne Monastery and Sky Fortress Bahamut. However, there are still places where there shouldn't be Mist, like the World of Darkness, the Rift and the Planet's Core.

Just finished watching a playthrough of Before Crisis. Is the game even canon? The protagonist Shotgun appears during the Nibelheim incident even though we see in Crisis Core that no other Turk was at the mako reactor during Zack's mission.

Also I could be wrong because I haven't played Rebirth, but Cissnei goes missing after entering the Planet's core to fight Zirconiade, and only re-appears at the epilogue. I heard she appears in Rebirth so that may be a contradiction?

Yeah, Before Crisis is a canon game. Aside some few inconsistencies it actually does fit in the overall events. The 10th Anniversary Ultimania actually has a section that openly decanonizes some entries of the Compilation, which it labels "Works outside of the Compilation", but only the Last Order ova and the Lost Episode Mobile Game of Dirge of Cerberus are in that list. Remember also that Shotgun is not the main character of Before Crisis, but rather a potential main character, you can choose among many different Turks, among them Cissnei, to play through the same story. Crisis Core kind of retroactively establishes that Cissnei was the main character of Before Crisis, but all the selectable Turks are canon characters that show up in the On the Way to a Smile novel.

The FFVII staff, more specifically Tetsuya Nomura, mentions that the differences between games regarding the Nibelheim Incident are because those are the versions of different people of the event. FFVII is Cloud's messed up memories of it, CC is Zack's and Before Crisis is the Player Turk's report. It's essentially a bad handwave, again Tetsuya Nomura and the others again covering their asses when it comes to retcons, inconsistencies and asspulls regarding the plots of their games, but it's the explanation given.

Cissnei popping up is not impossible, to be fair. Before Crisis takes place in the original timeline, while the Remake timeline mostly follows the original events very faithfully until the destiny break at the end of Remake, then things start to show bigger and bigger differences in more than one world.