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Final Fantasy 16 discussion thread

TartaChocholate said:
Is Clive's profile in the works?
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Dalesean027 said:
This is officially everything we have as of now for profiles

Characters and Abilities:
Magik and Dominants:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Dust_Collector/Sandbox6
Dion/Bahamut
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Dust Collector/Sandbox8

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Ultima
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Dust Collector/Sandbox9

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Barnabas
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Barnabas Tharmr

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Calculations:
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Benedikta Tornado Energy

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Eikon Height's Final fantasy 16

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 1 (Eikonic feats vol 1)

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 2

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 3

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Ifrit evaporates Leviathan's Tsumani (FF16)

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Phoenix Saves Ifrit from Bahamut's Light (FFXVI)

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Final Fantasy XVI Ultima's Storm Recalc

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This is everything we have rn
 
any lore on omega so far? am kind of curious about this mechanical super boss who I feel like it is consistently, one of the more reoccurring characters, as shiryu & maybe gilgamesh being the same person or thing in future games.
 
Chianli said:
any lore on omega so far? am kind of curious about this mechanical super boss who I feel like it is consistently, one of the more reoccurring characters, as shiryu & maybe gilgamesh being the same person or thing in future games.
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I'm currently trying to gather whatever translations I can find from the Ultimania. Sadly I haven't found the book itself, though. I'll let know if I get something about Omega.
 
Chianli said:
any lore on omega so far? am kind of curious about this mechanical super boss who I feel like it is consistently, one of the more reoccurring characters, as shiryu & maybe gilgamesh being the same person or thing in future games.
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this is not the same omega from the other games its a different omega
 
Ok, so all the bullshit that's been happening to me irl seems to be finally calming down (Had a lotta injuries this last like month, lemme tell ya a trapped nerve in the neck is not fun) so hopefully I can actually get to those profiles again.

I've probs jinxed myself and I'm gonna end up falling down the stairs and breaking my bones when I go out later tonight
 
Dust_Collector said:
Ok, so all the bullshit that's been happening to me irl seems to be finally calming down (Had a lotta injuries this last like month, lemme tell ya a trapped nerve in the neck is not fun) so hopefully I can actually get to those profiles again.
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Oof does not sound pleasant, hope you've been recovering all right
 
Getting back into the swing of things, Ultima's P&A section is completely done (Minus links / scans for the eikon abilities tab, think it'd be easier to just link to the profiles once their made instead of just having the abilities and scans but I just listed what he'd get as a placeholder for now). Filled out the physical stats a bit, made a note of his mind hax being 3 layers since he can affect clive (Ultima's direct mind hax > Dominant Resistance > Bearers Resistance).

Have we had a proper discussion about magic being potentially 4D in potency? Shivas time stop isn't really an actual time stop ability as it is her ice literally affecting and freezing time which might lead somewhere, at the very least Ultima's and Endgame Clives magic should likely have 4D potency since the whole dimension beyond time and space thing that Ultima has going on.
 
I’m ngl, this verse should probably cap out around tier 6 😔 the Ultima has tier 4/2 AP for dimension creation kinda buns, but uh I ain’t here to do anything about that
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I’m ngl, this verse should probably cap out around tier 6 😔 the Ultima has tier 4/2 AP for dimension creation kinda buns, but uh I ain’t here to do anything about that
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Well tbf Omega also is powerless against Ultima and does have the low 2-C compression feat, not saying that scales to omega's physicals but it is worth noting. Its just that it also wouldn't make sense if he also held back against Clive and didn't the same power we know he has to even create the interdimensional rift
 
Dust_Collector said:
Have we had a proper discussion about magic being potentially 4D in potency? Shivas time stop isn't really an actual time stop ability as it is her ice literally affecting and freezing time which might lead somewhere, at the very least Ultima's and Endgame Clives magic should likely have 4D potency since the whole dimension beyond time and space thing that Ultima has going on.
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Could be a kinda absolute zero kinda deal, I don't remember it in total but given it is time hax via literally freezing time through cold it sounds applicable but yeah regardless it does go to show the potency of the magic and its subjective reality *****
 
Dalesean027 said:
This is officially everything we have as of now for profiles

Characters and Abilities:
Magik and Dominants:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Dust_Collector/Sandbox6
Dion/Bahamut
vsbattles.fandom.com

Dust Collector/Sandbox8

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Ultima
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Dust Collector/Sandbox9

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Barnabas
vsbattles.fandom.com

Barnabas Tharmr

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Calculations:
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Benedikta Tornado Energy

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Eikon Height's Final fantasy 16

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 1 (Eikonic feats vol 1)

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 2

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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 3

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Ifrit evaporates Leviathan's Tsumani (FF16)

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Phoenix Saves Ifrit from Bahamut's Light (FFXVI)

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Final Fantasy XVI Ultima's Storm Recalc

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bumping all this again
 
Also from what I've seen on the hax side (minus the layers) early-mid game Clive vs Jin or Kazuya is actually seems somewhat fair.
 
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Also from what I've seen on the hax side (minus the layers) early-mid game Clive vs Jin or Kazuya is actually seems somewhat fair.
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Tekken is outdated in terms of stats and lacks calcs for new stuff or calcs in general for some feats, so those 7-A and High 6-A ratings for example on them, arent accurate at all, as they were changed by an incompetent user doing his agenda and will need revision to rectify, if in this timeline it ever happens to get any calcs actually done
 
Dalesean027 said:
Who would have thought Tekken of all things woukd be how we get Clive's official height and weight

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Tbh, I thought he thought he'd be taller and would weigh more considering he's among the more built FF characters. While FF does have their share of big dudes like Barret (FFVII), Snow (FFXIII), Gladio (FFXV), Sabin (FFVI), Auron and Jecht (FFX), Rajin (FFVIII), etc. It would be nice to have more of them for a bit of diversity.
 
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Tbh, I thought he thought he'd be taller and would weigh more considering he's among the more built FF characters. While FF does have their share of big dudes like Barret (FFVII), Snow (FFXIII), Gladio (FFXV), Sabin (FFVI), Auron and Jecht (FFX) etc. It would be nice to have more of them for a bit of diversity.
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Yeah in the end 6ft only seems short, I'm taller than him in that case but in game bro looks about 6'3 at least and has bulk to him like 190~200 pounds but I suppose japanese metrics different
 
Dalesean027 said:
Yeah in the end 6ft only seems short, I'm taller than him in that case but in game bro looks about 6'3 at least and has bulk to him like 190~200 pounds but I suppose japanese metrics different
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I thought that same thing, but oh well. Clive would be a Light Heavyweight in the UFC or Cruiserweight in Pro Wrestling

Introducing first. From the kingdom of Rosaria weighing in at 185 pounds...HE IS THE TEKKEN WORLD CHAMPION...CLIVE ROSFIELD!
 
The official explation for why Clive is chilling in the Tekken universe, the second time this year this poor man just got isekai'd to another world.

GeqF_qwbIAAlTC-
 
Leo's perfect for Joshua and while Lili works for Jill, I honestly thought Jun would be used to cosplay Jill.
 
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Tbh, I thought he thought he'd be taller and would weigh more considering he's among the more built FF characters. While FF does have their share of big dudes like Barret (FFVII), Snow (FFXIII), Gladio (FFXV), Sabin (FFVI), Auron and Jecht (FFX), Rajin (FFVIII), etc. It would be nice to have more of them for a bit of diversity.
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I guess the average height in Japan being shorter is at play here? Dunno, looking around, average male height in Japan is 1,72 mts while in the US it's 1,77 mts. So in that regard, for a Japanese person, Cloud is of average height (which makes a lot of sense if you know his whole character arc), Noct is above average, and Clive is actually rather tall. Other guys above 1,85 are actually towering above the average. Given that Barret, Snow, Sabin, Gladio and Raijin are these tough, strong members of their teams, them being giants comparatively makes a lot of sense. Barret in particular is, Mega Buster aside, pretty much straight out of an 80s Hollywood action movie (Tetsuya Nomura claims that the resemblance to Mr. T is unintentional, I leave that up to you).
 
Clive's out now for Pass Holders.



His interactions are delightful, especially with Reina.

As for his gameplay, after getting a feel for him, he actually requires a bit of skill to play. He's not too technically demanding but he's not ridiculously easy like some people on Tekken's roster.
 
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