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Fictional vs Historical: The Hawaii Holy Grail War (Redux) (Registration)

It's not like it really matters as long as it isn't a straight-up magical neg for non-humans, particularly Ainz unless he has perfect warrior here.
 
azontr said:
It's not like it really matters as long as it isn't a straight-up magical neg for non-humans, particularly Ainz unless he has perfect warrior here.
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A 90% reduction is essentially negation at that point. Hence why I have issues with literally only being able to drop nukes like TGoALiD an Fallen Down, both of which are kill moves, to do anything.
 
It forces 2 people to try harder, its a counter.

Matches up are important in fights, I dont see how its any worse then Ainz. Hes hard to kill but hes not super broken offensively
 
PsychoWarper said:
It forces 2 people to try harder, its a counter.

Matches up are important in fights, I dont see how its any worse then Ainz. Hes hard to kill but hes not super broken offensively
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If GM approved it that's fine I guess, but I don't see how Ainz "trying harder" will work as if 99% of anything he can do has reduced effectiveness like that, then I honestly don't see how just "trying harder" will work, same for Ghost Rider. This seems less like a counter and more like a blatant attempt to drive non-humans into the ******* lol.

But hey, if the GM gave the okay, I guess I have no place to argue with them :/
 
PsychoWarper said:
It forces 2 people to try harder, its a counter.

Matches up are important in fights, I dont see how its any worse then Ainz. Hes hard to kill but hes not super broken offensively
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Thing is I have the restraint to not try and outright kill people, in fact I highly dislike doing so, being capable of attacking at a range with a variety of things that usually isn't lethal unless AP kicks in is something many servants can do, particularly archers.

Which is why while the NPs look scary, I won't really use them outside of Perfect Warrior because they are highly lethal. So if this passes we should both accept that if Ravana and Ainz fight, I am 100% abliged to kill Ravana without any go ahead. That's not saying I'll engage the man myself, you'd have to do it, but I am abliged to off Ravana if they fight, and I expect no different from you.

As long as that is completely and apsolutely clear, fine.
 
I didnt do this cause of some spite to drive Non-Humans into the ******* I did it cause in Hindu myth Brahma gave Ravana a boon that made him completely invincible to anyone that isnt humans as Ravana didn’t believe humans where a threat.

Obviously thats to to much so I changed it to reducing, I asked how much I can cap it out at and mentioned 90% due to Karnas thing as they are from a basically in the same setting and same circumstances.
 
PsychoWarper said:
I didnt do this cause of some spite to drive Non-Humans into the ******* I did it cause in Hindu myth Brahma gave Ravana a boon that made him completely invincible to anyone that isnt humans as Ravana didn’t believe humans where a threat.

Obviously thats to to much so I changed it to reducing, I asked how much I can cap it out at and mentioned 90% due to Karnas thing as they are from a basically in the same setting and same circumstances.
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I probably should have worded it better as I wasn't trying to suggest you had some sort of spite lol. Sorry.
 
If 90% is simply to much then what percentage should it be to make it an acceptable level? I cant get rid of it since its like one of the biggest parts of his legend, it would be like not giving Achilles his Invulnerablity.
 
PsychoWarper said:
If 90% is simply to much then what percentage should it be to make it an acceptable level? I cant get rid of it since its like one of the biggest parts of his legend, it would be like not goving Achilles his Invulnerablity.
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You don't have to get rid of it if it's that important to the character's legend, but you'd probably have to cut that reduction down to like half to make it acceptable. Maybe 40-50%?
 
interesting i thought ravana would qualify more of beast representing ego or pride than rider. Nice to see more indian servants i might do laxman or one of the pandavas
 
But honestly if there is a balancing issue with ainz @Andykhang just tell me about it. I heavily restricted the massive cheese I noticed after making the file, which was Nazarick having the floor guardians in it lol
PsychoWarper said:
If 90% is simply to much then what percentage should it be to make it an acceptable level? I cant get rid of it since its like one of the biggest parts of his legend, it would be like not goving Achilles his Invulnerablity.
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It's similar to Karna's, but against beings that are simply non-human and lack any sort of possible divinity, a 60% damage reduction is placed, against foes of C-Rank or lower divinity a 75% damage reduction is placed. against foes of B-Rank or higher divinity the full on 90% is placed. Feel free to change the percentages cause I don't think Ravana should take full damage from Ainz, that'd be stupid in the eye of his legend, but he should take heavily reduced damage from him.
 
Anyway how about I do the different percentages for the divinity and then for non-humans that arnt attached to divinity a flat 50-60% reduction?

How should it work for hax? Just like energy blasts or elemental attacks can just take the same reductions as physical attacks but what about other hax?
 
PsychoWarper said:
Anyway how about I do the different percentages for the divinity and then for non-humans that arnt attached to divinity a flat 50-60% reduction?
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I'd be fine with that, it makes Ravana still a counter to non-humans but doesn't make him crushing unless the character is literally a full honest to God demigod.
 
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