Fate Servant Tiering CRT

[DMUA]

Yeah, looks that way.

Everyone else would of course be downed accordingly, but, even D class strength will probably still be in the High 7-C range since it's 4x baseline.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Thanks for the calc.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

We cannot forget the other mountain shit tho

 

[DMUA]

Eh

Busting a standard mountain is Small City level or so, so it could hold some validity in theory.

Mountain and Island level requirements#Island level Explosion:

 

[Solacis]

Mordred threatened to destroy a mountain range in Camelot with CBA, and our resident expert on mass destruction (Arash) believed it was possible.

Seeing as said mountain range actually exists, what would be the yield on that?

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Mind posting the statement ?

 

[Solacis]

Gimme a second to find it

 

[Solacis]

Here it is.

Correction. CBA was only going to destroy the mountain, not the whole range. Said mountain is to the west of the range, according to Arash when he shot the team in that direction, if that helps.

 

[Solacis]

Average height of mountains in that area is 2500m-3500m tall, so even fragmentation should be solid mountain level.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Where did you get those numbers from exactly? And where is this taking place?

 

[Solacis]

The specific fight in Camelot is taking place in the Alborz Mountains. The wikipedia page I linked above lists the topology of the whole mountain range. I just took the most common range of heights in the western side of the range and checked against the Mountain level requirements in the page DMUA linked.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So if what people say is true, and Excalibur is superior to CBA then Saber can scale.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Oh, also, I want to highlight something again. I think Siegfried should be country level with Balmung, since he can harm Fafnir even in servant form. Yes, he is super effective against dragons, but he can still back scale if we know the multiplier. Dragons themselves like Fafnir can destroy countries by breathing

 

[Solacis]

If I remember right, Balmung and Gram's dragon-slaying attributes are pretty ridiculous. As in, "small cuts can kill" ridiculous. I can't find the source on that though. Besides, CBA matched Balmung in Apocrypha. The anti-dragon trait has to be stupid good to jump nearly an entire tier.

Also, where did you get that dragons can destroy countries by breathing. I think you're mixing it up with generating magical energy by breathing. If dragons were country-busters just by breathing, then Fafnir would be WAY higher than 6-B.

Speaking of which, is there a Fafnir profile? Country-level Fafnir keeps getting brought up, but I dunno where it came from.

 

[John985]

Sieg the current Fafnir.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I was saying that if there is a specificly known metric against those with the dragon attribute, then we can back scale from Fafnir's power. Siegfried also makes it clear he basically won by slowly chipping away at him by focussing on a single point in his armor, on a one and a million chance. He backscales only in that he can damage him, but would usually get thrashed anyway. It was a matter of luck kek

I need to find the scan again, but iirc it was probably already posted in this series of threads. Also yeah, Fafnir is stupidly powerful even as far as dragons go. A proper dragon would be that powerful, and scaling from them breathing is a low ball.

Caster Sieg has Fafnir as one of his keys, if you are looking for it

 

[Gemmysaur]

Thoughts?

It was ―

"Ex ― calibur!!!"

Light galloped.

Light roared.

The prana, accelerated by the factor of the released dragon, became a streak of light, a swirling and surging torrent that devoured the sea demon together with the dark night.

A silent scream rose within the river water evaporating in an instant, as every single atom composing the body of the giant sea demon that had been the embodiment of terror were exposed to the scorching impact.

-Fate/Zero: Act 10, -84:19:03

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

We have talked about this a few times and have never really come to a conclusion. It is pretty clear that it atomizes, but it is also my opinion that it does not bypass durability, nor should it be calc'd based on its atomization either

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Other Excalibur feats we might want to look at

Excalibur Morgan vaporizing Beannu.

Excalibur against Shadows in Hollow Ataraxia.

Excalibur Morgan destroying a Moubtain in Heaven's Feel movie 2.

Other Np feats that might be worth calcing.

Mesketet being able to destroy Tokyo in a few hours/overnight.

Clarent and Balmung clash.

Spartacus vaporizing half a mountain sized fortress and parts of a town/city after the majority of the attack was tanked Jeanne.

Galatine busting an Island in Last Encore.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I'll go try and collect scans of the Last Encore feats

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Oh, also. Can we potentially scale any of the servants to the embodiment of that one mountain?

 

[THOK_AST_THOK]

Because it had nothing to do with atom. The word atom wasn't even in that sentence. What was used was ÕêåÕ¡É, not ÕăաÉ

 

[Gemmysaur]

Soo.... molecule.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

> Other Np feats that might be worth calcing.

The only NP i know might be worth to calc (maybe) is Tomoe busting Pagoda Palace iirc.

 

[JBennett]

There's also my suggestion for XenoBreakers Laputa's feat if any one is curious.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@JB

But that feat can only applied to Fergus Lilly no one would be scaled from him.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Fergus lily at the time of that feat was supposed to be as strong as or slightly weaker than normal Fergus so it can be used for scaling

 

[JBennett]

the feat is done by combining the power Lilly and OG Fergus right? so even if no one can scale to Lilly, Fergus should be able to since the majority of the power came from him and my suggestion was to half the results since it is an attack with two different powers.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Other Excalibur feats we might want to look at
Excalibur Morgan vaporizing Beannu.

Excalibur against Shadows in Hollow Ataraxia.

Excalibur Morgan destroying a Moubtain in Heaven's Feel movie 2.

Other Np feats that might be worth calcing.

Mesketet being able to destroy Tokyo in a few hours/overnight.

Clarent and Balmung clash.

Spartacus vaporizing half a mountain sized fortress and parts of a town/city after the majority of the attack was tanked Jeanne.

Galatine busting an Island in Last Encore.

Does anyone have scans for these?

 

[DMUA]

Oh man, that reminds me of how I still want to calc Spartacus' self destruction

Never actually got around to rewatching Acropiwhatokjjfoawjifwjioa to do so though

 

[AguilaR101]

If there are no other feats that can be scaled to physical AP practically every servant is going to drop to either MCB+ /Small Town/ Town Level depending on which end is accepted.

Are there any other feats that can be reliably be scaled to the normal AP of servants?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

That we gonna prevented it, gather moar feats!!!

 

[DMUA]

Well, there's Herc's statements, and there's also this guy who took down a mountain sized centipede.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Anyway anyone want to inform Rep about this?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

If there are no other feats that can be scaled to physical AP practically every servant is going to drop to either MCB+ /Small Town/ Town Level depending on which end is accepted.
Are there any other feats that can be reliably be scaled to the normal AP of servants?

Let's not get too drastic lol

 

[DMUA]

Well

The calc is getting more depressing the more I edit

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Which calc?

 

[Paul_Frank]

There was the thing with sieg and fafnir there are also again the mountain statements so combining those you can get 7-A servants easily

 

[DMUA]

User blogMUA/Nasuverse: Excaliblast: The Final Countdow

 

[Paul_Frank]

That's looking like an outlier if it's that low