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Because we have never seen a full power Artoria the way we have for Gil or Enkidu. If we ever see her in person then we will give her that key, but she just hasn't appeared in person yetEscanor998 said:
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Fate: 7-A Servants
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Artoria doesn't have that much power, its the sword the one that should have another key
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Also Gil's "full power" is obviously an outlier but still is listed :/
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It was confirmed that it was Artoria who used Excalibur on the White Titan? I knew Excalibur was used, but that doesn't mean it was her who used it.
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Why would it be an outlier?Escanor998 said:
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Artoria wasn't the one who beat Sefar, just that someone got to use Excalibur to beat Sefar. Don't spread nonsense.
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I'd think it was Arthur before Artoria
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It was a random person who got Excalibur, neither Arthur nor Artoria.
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We don't even know why both Rhon and Excalibur were given specifically to Saber, or what are event he qualifications to use it if there's any.
Putting into doubt anyone else using it when it's way older than her is just, absurd nonsense.
Nothing was ever stated, just that Excalibur was used to repel Sefar. But unless time hopping shenanigans happened, Arthur being involved is baseless theory crafting and someone else must have been the one.
Putting into doubt anyone else using it when it's way older than her is just, absurd nonsense.
Nothing was ever stated, just that Excalibur was used to repel Sefar. But unless time hopping shenanigans happened, Arthur being involved is baseless theory crafting and someone else must have been the one.
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Well it could be her as a Heroic Spirit, I mean the Throne of Heros is outside of time so the Counter force could easily use her even in the past. Though I do admit I'm not entierly sure if the Counter Force was active at that point.
Saber recived Excalibur from Vivian right? in terms of Rhon I'm not sure where that one comes from.
Saber recived Excalibur from Vivian right? in terms of Rhon I'm not sure where that one comes from.
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Pointless speculation isn't going to get Artoria any upgrades.
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Can Merlin use Excalibur?
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He doesn't use Exaclibur. He uses Caliburn, or more specifically a very similar sword to it
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No, but I know that it is described by the guides as being more akin to Caiburn. Its design matters less than its functionality.
" He's a Caster, but he fights using a sword too. Or rather, he thoughtlessly put up a Caliburn-like sword.
Protagonist: "Wait, you're not using magic?!"
Merlin: "Depends on the time and place! I mean, you know. I tend to bite my tongue if I panic at the incantation. If you just need to beat up the enemy, a sword is enough, no?" " - FGO Material IV
Also, he is the one who crafted Caliburn, but he did not create Excalibur, so he would have the Caliburn style sword instead, or at least that would be more easy for him to access
" He's a Caster, but he fights using a sword too. Or rather, he thoughtlessly put up a Caliburn-like sword.
Protagonist: "Wait, you're not using magic?!"
Merlin: "Depends on the time and place! I mean, you know. I tend to bite my tongue if I panic at the incantation. If you just need to beat up the enemy, a sword is enough, no?" " - FGO Material IV
Also, he is the one who crafted Caliburn, but he did not create Excalibur, so he would have the Caliburn style sword instead, or at least that would be more easy for him to access
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is the calc of Fate/Zero Excalibur ready yet?
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Also, the calc of Excalibur (Fate Zero) could be used to measure the power of A+ NP like Balmung because it overpowered and destroyerd Caster's NP (Prelati's spellbook is an A+ Anti-Army Noble Phantasm) (It would be more acurate than just using High 7-A to most A rank NP like Balmung because it managed to overpower Brahmastra Kundala when used over and over, because there is no calc) (Also this calc would be more accurate because Saber here had a good amount of mana and wasn't weakened) (Also, we should scale Spartacus self detruction to this instead of the calc of Brahmastra Kundala that is scaled to pashupata, because Pashupata causes instant death, and because we dont know the size of the forest it destroyed we can't be sure if the 28 gigatons calc is accurate)
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What's the verdict? on those calcs?
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BUMP
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So far, Ugarik's disagreed with the calc.
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So, is anybody working on the new calculations thenDragonEmperor23 said:
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Bump.
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How many Calc members need to disagree with a calc before it becomes unusable? It's been 15 days since one commented on it.
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I think a second round of messaging wouldn't hurt just to get more eyes.
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Alright, I've messaged Kep, Raven, Bambu, and TataHakai.
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Bump
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Aguila, could you try messaging some calc members about this calc as well?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnonymousBlank/Fate/stay_night_Excaliblast_vs_cloud
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnonymousBlank/Fate/stay_night_Excaliblast_vs_cloud
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Give it a few days, I went ahead and asked another user to calculate the entire feat from scratch. Should be done in a few days or so.
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Alright, nice. ƒæì
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Since this was getting kind of full and the main topic of the thread switched a good portion through, I made a new thread specifically for it.
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i'm kinda new to the wiki, but i read some threads on "saber vs___" and in one a dude pointed out that people were using atomozing and "atomic destruction" interchangably when they're not the same thing, yes her excaliblast is powerful but not powerful enough to destroy atoms, you can vaporize this dude but if his regen is strong enough saber cant do jacksh*it because he can grow back the limbs he losses...just sayingRin The Dragon Empress said:
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Destroying atoms wouldn't do anything to stop people from regrowing limbs if their regen is only enough to regen a cut off limb. Atomic destruction is only relevant if the entire body is destroyed.
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Like Cell for example
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exactly what i thought, but most people on "saber vs _____" threads tend to go : "well, her sword destroys atoms (when in reality it only vaporizes) therefore the dude/chick fighting saber is done for no matter how incredibly high his/her regen is, the use of those two words as though they were synonyms make a huge difference because dudes that can regenerate from some molecules left of his/her body ( like cell or higher tier) gets rekt automatically because of that misconception.Hagane no Saiyajin said:
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I don't remember saber winning matches because of Excalibur atomizing opponents (not that it actually does)
