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About High 6-B/6-A Excalibur, right? Because i feel same about that.
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Fate: 7-A Servants
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At least Saber doesn't have this Excalibur:
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@Rububle
I mean, if we decide that it is more consistent that they do bypass durability then I will support it, but it is mostly due to Excalibur never really being portrayed that way. Swords portrayed as comparable do not bypass durability, although some have other special effects to them. While almost all of them vaporize, I took it as a bonus effect that Excalibur also attacks the atoms of its target to be able to somewhat prevent Regenerationn and cause a more total destruction. While I do not think the atoms are destroyed persay, it does specifically "scorch every atom." She is not pulling a Killer Queen or anything like that
I mean, if we decide that it is more consistent that they do bypass durability then I will support it, but it is mostly due to Excalibur never really being portrayed that way. Swords portrayed as comparable do not bypass durability, although some have other special effects to them. While almost all of them vaporize, I took it as a bonus effect that Excalibur also attacks the atoms of its target to be able to somewhat prevent Regenerationn and cause a more total destruction. While I do not think the atoms are destroyed persay, it does specifically "scorch every atom." She is not pulling a Killer Queen or anything like that
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Where does it attacking atoms come from?
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Seems like a sad year for 7-A Servants. Looks like they'll either be baseline 7-A or 7-B.
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Baseline 7-A is fine tbh.
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in Fate/Zero when she destroyed Caster's elder form narration described it as "scorching every atom" to stop his Eldritch form from regeneratingDragonEmperor23 said:
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Is this the only time it's mentioned to effect atoms?
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I'm bit iffy about atomization for Excalibur because its sound flowery language-esque for me.
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There are probabaly other times, but that is the time that it is most clear and it is what usually gets cited. It doesn't come up many other times because she doesn't usually fight foes that atomization would kill them any more than vaporizing them would. Hence why I am not sure that they bypass durability. Nothing contradicts its atomization tho
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Actually, only in that scene is stated that it attacks atoms and even is inconsistent because it says something like "the beam of light vaporized the river and atomized the monster" so it doesn't make sence, now i'll try to find the souce but it's gonna take a while
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Why would that be inconsistent?
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"Ex calibur!!!
Light galloped.
Light roared.
The prana, accelerated by the factor of the released dragon, became a streak of light, a swirling and surging torrent that devoured the sea demon together with the dark night.
A silent scream rose withi the river water evaporating in an instant, as every single atom composing the body of the giant sea demon that had been the embodiment of terror were exposed to the scorching impact.
But in the center of the sea demon being completely burnt to cinders, within a fortress of bulky defiled flesh, Caster simply wordlessly watched over this moment of white blinding annihilation which had stolen his heart.
[...]
Just what, have I
Before this murmur, directed at no one, left his mouth, all matter was brought into another world, annihilated by the white light."
I smell that is just flowery language, I mean, it says vaporization, scorching and atomization.
Light galloped.
Light roared.
The prana, accelerated by the factor of the released dragon, became a streak of light, a swirling and surging torrent that devoured the sea demon together with the dark night.
A silent scream rose withi the river water evaporating in an instant, as every single atom composing the body of the giant sea demon that had been the embodiment of terror were exposed to the scorching impact.
But in the center of the sea demon being completely burnt to cinders, within a fortress of bulky defiled flesh, Caster simply wordlessly watched over this moment of white blinding annihilation which had stolen his heart.
[...]
Just what, have I
Before this murmur, directed at no one, left his mouth, all matter was brought into another world, annihilated by the white light."
I smell that is just flowery language, I mean, it says vaporization, scorching and atomization.
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Well if it's only stated once then it's somewhat inconsistent. If there's more statements of atomization then it should be legit.
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No, it is only stated in that scene
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It would be inconsistent because is a beam of light that should either atomize or vaporize, not bothIapitus The Impaler said:
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Something not being mentioned doesn't mean it is contradicted. It is uncontradicted so far as I knowRin The Dragon Empress said:
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Is that really even atomic destruction to begin with? It's never stated that the atoms are being destroyed, it sounds more like vaporizing to me.
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We already agreed that Excalibur is not literally light. Hence why servants aren't FTLEscanor998 said:
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I know, but still it is inconsistent because it says scorching, vaporization and atomization, so we can't use the thing with the higher end just because you like it, also, in most sources it says vaporization, so that should be used
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Could someone remind me what's the context of the calc where Excalibur vaporizes the river?
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When fighting Caster, I think.
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I am aware, but if I read that thing right Kiritsugu just settled down some boat so he could mitigate the effects of Excalibur. But if it is that same Excalibur, does that mean it pretty much punched through Caster's massive monster after vaping it fully, kept on going, hit the boat and the residual energy that dispersed was enough to vap the river too? This without mentioning whatever happened to the boat.
Of course, I am kind of doubting it so I was curious what was the full context.
Also, I always wondered where in size range would the massive horror fall as in the Novel illustrations, it towers damn high over even the big Fuyuki bridge while still having a chunk submerged in a deep river.
Of course, I am kind of doubting it so I was curious what was the full context.
Also, I always wondered where in size range would the massive horror fall as in the Novel illustrations, it towers damn high over even the big Fuyuki bridge while still having a chunk submerged in a deep river.
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Can this be used? I mean, she left a damn big hole in the cloudEscanor998 said:
Fate Zero - Saber kills Caster (Excalibur scene) 1080p ENG SUBS
It happens in minute 2:47
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I said slow down Esc, we do it slowly but possible.
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Vaporization is what she does to the river, and what the baseline effect of that kind of sword is. Atomization is how they directly attack the atoms, and scorching is the direct damage. Its not that hardEscanor998 said:
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Anyway we should calculate Pucci Alter destroying Bennu.
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You mean the meteor? Its already been calculated and the results are unimpressive and inapplicable since ULW bypasses durability anywayVeloxt1r0kore said:
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a quick question, can the activation of vasavi shakti be calculated?, because that could give us a an idea of the durability of servants on Siegfried's tier like Artoria
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I ran the calculation, but its shaky at best with the results, and they aren't impressive to begin with anyway
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It wouldn't really work for dura anyway since Armor of Fafnir nerfs stuff by B rank. We'd need it to actually do damage to him to say anything.
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Ok
Another question, why there isn't a key of Full Powered Excalibur rated at At least 5-B, Likely 5-A? I mean, against planetary threats its strength rises exponentially, for example it (supposedly) One-Shotted the White Titan in the Extraverse
Also, what's the whole point of a blade that can save the planet if it hasn't enough power?
Another question, why there isn't a key of Full Powered Excalibur rated at At least 5-B, Likely 5-A? I mean, against planetary threats its strength rises exponentially, for example it (supposedly) One-Shotted the White Titan in the Extraverse
Also, what's the whole point of a blade that can save the planet if it hasn't enough power?
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Well, I was comparing it more so to the fact that Balmung should at least be greater than just the heat that comes off of the activation of VS since it can divert part of the great blast by virtue of root laws and all that. It didn't come out to much anyway
