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Fairy Tail vs RAVE (Natsu vs Haru)
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Natsu one shots.
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4x Difference is not a One Shot, and Haru has versatility
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He one shots Zeref tho.
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He just barely overpowered Zeref and did not One Shot him, they had a small back and forth and were pretty much equal
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(Shrugs)
Natsu via sheer AP advantage. two or three hits connect=Dead Haru.
Natsu via sheer AP advantage. two or three hits connect=Dead Haru.
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Still doesn't change Natsu hits like a train to Haru tho.
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Correction his absolute strongest attack one shotted after a hard fought battle.Homu Sweet Homu said:
Natsu FRA
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Haru's only chance is Runesave combos and even then it'd only be defensive. Since Natsu eats anything with Explosion, or Blue Crimsion in it. However Natsu runs through him like a train with that ap.
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EoS Shiki appears with his Planet level strength and wrecks both. ovo
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Yeah, agreed. I think people are forgetting that Haru can seal magic. Lucia sealed one of Haru's sword forms with Runesave and Haru sealed Elie's etherion with Runesave. So it's certainly possible. Runesave also serves as a hard counter to all of Natsu's attacks.
Haru would eventually find out that fire doesn't work against a fire wizard. Or assume he's like Let and not use fire against him in the first place. And stick to his ice, speed amplification, density manipulation, and wind manipulation. Versatility plus the ability to literally cut through all of Natsu's attacks without any difficulty should give Haru a win here. Not to mention that Haru's striking strength should scale to his tier. Not that Natsu's doesn't, but it's been shown that his punches are significantly weaker without his flames powering them.
Haru would eventually find out that fire doesn't work against a fire wizard. Or assume he's like Let and not use fire against him in the first place. And stick to his ice, speed amplification, density manipulation, and wind manipulation. Versatility plus the ability to literally cut through all of Natsu's attacks without any difficulty should give Haru a win here. Not to mention that Haru's striking strength should scale to his tier. Not that Natsu's doesn't, but it's been shown that his punches are significantly weaker without his flames powering them.
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I think we assume that the magic null would come into play when Natsu has a pretty big AP advantage. I see Natsu winning with pure AP before Haru does much of anything. Even without the flames, Natsu still has a significant AP advantage here. Runesave is really only Haru's useful skill and no one has mentioned how in character it is or whether he's sealed something as strong as Natsu's attack (Sealing needs feats of working on that level. We do make a point that you need feats of Sealing something a certain amount above your paygrade in order to assume it can) in which I should mention, is above the likes of Etherion. So has he sealed something stronger than Etherion before?
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Etherion is High 6-A, so it's already stronger by Natsu's flames by default. Etherion is held by Elie.
I still find that it'll be difficult for Natsu to win with practically just his fists. I think it was in his fight with Yuka (Or maybe Erigor) where when the fire on his fist was extinguished, his punch did next to nothing. I'm fairly certain his AP is measured with his magic. Without his magic amplifying him, he should be significantly weaker.
However, even with the AP advantage, with Haru going between neutralizing his flames, and pressuring him with his other offensive forms that don't involve fire, melforce, silfarion, and gravity core especially, I can see him taking it. I also have to go back and see if Eisenmeteor is a blade unaffected by magic. I think he used it against Sieg for that exact reason.
On a side note, I feel that Shiki is going to be far stronger than both of these characters EoS.
I still find that it'll be difficult for Natsu to win with practically just his fists. I think it was in his fight with Yuka (Or maybe Erigor) where when the fire on his fist was extinguished, his punch did next to nothing. I'm fairly certain his AP is measured with his magic. Without his magic amplifying him, he should be significantly weaker.
However, even with the AP advantage, with Haru going between neutralizing his flames, and pressuring him with his other offensive forms that don't involve fire, melforce, silfarion, and gravity core especially, I can see him taking it. I also have to go back and see if Eisenmeteor is a blade unaffected by magic. I think he used it against Sieg for that exact reason.
On a side note, I feel that Shiki is going to be far stronger than both of these characters EoS.
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You have the source, I don't remember Natsu's attacks being that much weaker, especially at this stage of the game. Even then, this is assuming Haru starts with Runesave and NOTHING else before getting utterly demolished by Natsu's higher AP. On hit from Natsu could in fact be either a one-shot or enough to heavily cripple Haru. Even of the flames get nulled, Natsu can still more than easily damage him.
Natsu's sheer power imo grants him the win here.
Natsu's sheer power imo grants him the win here.
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172 Terratons vs 752?
This is like the closest to a stomp as you can get
This is like the closest to a stomp as you can get
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Well, people forget, Runesave can't do physical damage, so if Haru wants to win, he's gonna have to use something other than Runesave at some point
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BTW Dragon I owe you a chat
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Not until this weekend. Last week of the semester.Schnee One said:
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I didn't say it was a stompNedge1000 said:
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For what reasons?
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That =/= Planet level or Universe level
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No official evidence of that^
That would be like Acnologia being Planet Level, because he said he would destroy the world, Endless at best destroyed 1/10th the world, and Etherion for Elie should be downgraded, because it never showed any world destroying feat
That would be like Acnologia being Planet Level, because he said he would destroy the world, Endless at best destroyed 1/10th the world, and Etherion for Elie should be downgraded, because it never showed any world destroying feat
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https://imgur.com/a/uPcWzcG
That's just the planet level scans. I'll link the universal stuff later.
The endless also exists as the Star memory (a Dimension that transcends space and time)
That's just the planet level scans. I'll link the universal stuff later.
The endless also exists as the Star memory (a Dimension that transcends space and time)
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You should do a CRT if you really wanna discuss it.
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At best Endless would be Planetary, Haru and Lucia don't scale to that
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Not all of it, and now that I remember, Endless haxes the world, not fully destroys, he pulls a Zeref Neo Eclipse and rewarps the wOrld, I don't think we can scale that to any of the characters
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