Fairy Tail Hundred Year Quest Discussion Thread 11

[CNBA3]

Well the same could be said of Cobra since he was a villain too and turned good guy later, being temporary villains doesn't mean they weren't villains before hand.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I never said Cobra wasn't a villain though and his situation is different from Sting and Rogue who sure as hell weren't villains. Antagonists and villains are two different things which was the point of my post. Yes they were antagonists for that arc as they were opposed to the protags but that doesn't make them villains. I was saying DF never being possessed by villains was more accurate than David's one of antagonists. If you want to equate antagonists and villains then Frosch was a villain. Do you really wanna argue that?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Antagonist is someone who fights the protagonist.

Villains are bad people.

Antagonists are often villains but that's only because protagonists are good guys most of the time.

Natsu fought Sting and Rogue but they were never villainous people. I mean, is Sting crying and attempting to kill Jiemma for the perceived death of his friend something that someone like Zero or Erigor would do?

 

[CNBA3]

If that is the case, Cubellios would be an antagonist too since she is a close friend too Cobra too who is a antagonist/villain too.

and like Dragon said, villains are bad people, and people who laugh at people's pain and suffering is definitely a villain, which Sting at least qualifies.

 

[Zackra1799]

Making fun of people doesn't make you a villain, unless it's with the intent to cause serious harm, What Sting did is just called being a d*ck.

 

[CNBA3]

It does cause harm, which is what Sting was doing to people who are hurt, tortured or brought to near death.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I feel like we read different mangas

 

[CNBA3]

same manga

 

[The_Calaca]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3893460

Important.

 

[Shabaz88]

Why is The gray that fought End and the Gray that fought skullion the same Based on the design The one that fought end has more of its faced colored and the eye is slightly shaded

 

[CNBA3]

Why is The gray that fought End and the Gray that fought skullion the same Based on the design The one that fought end has more of its faced colored and the eye is slightly shaded

The difference is their level of power, as Gray was being corrupted by his powers when fighting END which made him stronger, while he was more in his standard DSM against Skullion

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I take it as Gray's Devil Mark just getting stronger from Invel to END and it remained at that level of power in 100 Year Quest

 

[CNBA3]

I take it as Gray's Devil Mark just getting stronger from Invel to END and it remained at that level of power in 100 Year Quest

It doesn't as it's power derives from it's host succumbing to darkness

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Here's what I think the scaling for 100 Year Quest is at the moment

God Tiers: The Dragon Gods, Ignia's Power Natsu

Top Tiers: FDKM Natsu, RLDM Laxus, Fire Dragon and Ice Demon Swords Erza

High-Mid Tiers: LFDM Natsu, ISDM Gajeel, Base Laxus, Jellal, Dragon Slayer Sword Erza

Mid Tiers: Base Natsu, Base Gajeel, Base Erza, Devil Slayer Gray, Satan Soul Mira, Elfman, Kiria, Madmole, Skullion, Wraith Possessing Makarov

Low Tiers: Star Dress Mix Lucy, Dragon Force Wendy, Wraith, Makarov

Bottom Tiers: Base Lucy, Base Wendy, Base Gray, Juvia, Lisanna, Thunder Legion Tribe, Nebal

Pretty Simple

Touka is interesting, she doesn't fight, hopefully she does with this new form

 

[CNBA3]

I think she is being damaged more than can fight

 

[ShadowGun45]

Why isn't Gildarts High 6-C? if he injured August who is superior to Irene then he should obviously climb

and why haven't we calculated Adamantina's dragon feat by destroying mountains yet ? [1]

 

[Siegfried10]

I think you are understimating Gray, also, i dont think he needs Mira to weaken in order to fight her. Seems like they forgot that Satan Soul makes her a demon, so Gray should have the advantage.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I think everyone is aware that IDSM Gray has a natural advantage but the guy was terrified of fighting her and planned to let her get weakened by the guy who beat him before stepping in against the winner. Guy just watched her fighting and was scared so it's safe to say he is weaker than her unless he somehow doesn't know his own strength and is severely downplaying himself.

 

[Siegfried10]

Natsu and Gray tend to downplay themselves when it comes to Mira and Erza, despite them having better feats in the Alvarez arc. Also, if IDSM Gray could fight equally against END he should have an easier fight against Mira.

There is also the fact that they cant waste all their magic while fighting one person, so waiting for Mira to weaken could be because of that.

 

[CNBA3]

IDSM Gray was strengthened by his dark emotions to fight END, he did not have that when he fought Skullion, they could always get magic from tomorrow like what Natsu, Gajeel and Wendy did,

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Why isn't Gildarts High 6-C? if he injured August who is superior to Irene then he should obviously climb

and why haven't we calculated Adamantina's dragon feat by destroying mountains yet ? [1]

No, Gildarts could barely scratch him even him his strongest attack. They aren't comparable at all.

I think there was a calc regarding that feat and it only yielded around City Level.

 

[The_Calaca]

At the current state of the verse, that feat might support a slight upgrade, actually.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

The feat would only scale to like Atlas Flame, Motherglare, Future Rogue, and Hellfire Natsu

 

[The_Calaca]

Which is still useful.

 

[CNBA3]

With a beam that went all the way to the horizon at least it would have gotten a higher stat

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

If the results are higher than what they already scale to, than it would be a cool upgrade for the people that Mitch mentioned. If it's slightly lower, than it's good supporting evidence at least.

You know what to do Mitch ovo.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I can calc it at some point today

 

[ShadowGun45]

also has a feat of Wendy, Gajeel and Natsu destroying some mountains in Edolas

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

@Demon

How about now ovo?

@Shadow

Link?

 

[The_Calaca]

That feat has been calced at High 7-C and it was dismissed way before the Low 7-B upgrades happened.

 

[CNBA3]

I just need the height of the Dragons so I can calc the horizon distance and calc the explosion

 

[ShadowGun45]

I just need the height of the Dragons so I can calc the horizon distance and calc the explosion

use Igneel size

when he leaves Natsu's body you can calculate the height

 

[CNBA3]

I just need the height of the Dragons so I can calc the horizon distance and calc the explosion

use Igneel size
when he leaves Natsu's body you can calculate the height

What I meant was the height of dragons when they are up in the air during the GMG arc when Motherglare fired a breath attack that reached the horizon

 

[Davidsteel1]

Don't use Igneel dragons have shown they can vary massively in size depending on the dragon in question, Motherglare has a good shot when she(/he?) exits the eclipse gate

Nvm

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Mother glare and Atlas are relative in size while we get a flashback of Igneel pwning Atlas where they are similar in size as well (or it looked that way since Atlas was being ground into the dirt iirc). Not that this info is useful lol.

See if there are panels with Rogue looking down from Motherglare at Crocus to angsize the altitude or even people looking up at him while he and Motherglare were chilling up there.

 

[CNBA3]

Well you can find Motherglare's size from comparing size of Rogue to one of it's scales then find the overall size

 

[Davidsteel1]

That requires the scales to be consistently drawn though and seeing how they're a relatively minor part of Motherglares anatomy I don't think we'll be that lucky.

I think this would work better

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The scales vary wildly in size in the same image so scaling like that isn't too accurate. The one David linked is pretty good. The ratio between Motherglare and the soldiers is also roughly the same as the Dragon Slayers and all the other dragons that show up.

 

[CNBA3]

This link is what I was referring to with measuring from Rogue to one of the scales, and then using that scale to measure the rest from there

https://*********.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628724/6

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Motherglare's Roar

Can anyone call some calc members for this calc