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@Aka
Yeah, this is Base 7-A Wilhelm being used here, anyway:
Koishi: 1 (Pax)
Wilhelm: 0
Yeah, this is Base 7-A Wilhelm being used here, anyway:
Koishi: 1 (Pax)
Wilhelm: 0
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Experiment: Koishi Komeiji vs Wilhelm Ehrenburg
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- walks into thread*
- points out that it was explicitly noted that if you don't atttract attention then his passive absorption is kinda weak*
- walks out*
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The Koi FRA
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i mean its a soul and lifeforce thing and tbf the LDOs resist soul stuff
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It depend how potent soul stuff in Touhou tbh.
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-Koishi: 2 (Pax, Junko)
-Wilhelm: 0
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BUMP!!
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Everytime koishi use danmaku she can be noticed but she will phase out once she stops.
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hmm maybe at that moment wil can sense the power and soul read which could allow him to understand his enemy is much stronger physically and lead to a briah unleash.
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That is still a lot of reactions and thoughts for Wil. When Koishi just has to one-shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7cGmeseStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2C5C8IcOs *pls note that these vids are about situations where the girls are basically playing laser tag/ dodgeball. These aren't fights to the death.
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Yeah unless wil instantly start chanting briah and able to dodge those danmaku while chanting. Wil pretty much ded
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Isn't they active it without using chant? The last argument i read before they can active the briah without the chant.
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In character he will chant but it can be casted without chant
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its more for effect even then its stupidly quick not even a second i think
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No ren has shown to react to wolfy briah but cant reach because briah already affect the moment he chant
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didn't beatrice in her briah despite being so close like 20 meters couldn't do it in time so there is that...
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Hmm againts who? i forgot havent touch dies irae for years
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eleonore and again while they do chant if the opponent is really dangerous i think they'll ditch the chant like valeria who ditched his completely
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BUMP!!
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so will wil go briah the moment he saw koishi shooting danmaku?
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But in that moment too Koishi will disappear again, she is not that dumb letting herself get briah'd.
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but how does she know briah is dangerous? and she is supposed to dumb and really straight , she practically a child
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he could if in that moment he notices and she can still be interated with right? As in she can still be soul and life force sucked even if she's a sort of "imaginary friend". Plus she's well within the briahs range being only 5 meters away from wil while the range is 100 times more than the distance they start against each other.
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Just because she's child doesn't mean she is dumb or can't sense any danger, despite being physically a child she's not quite a child, also any child who can sense any danger can just avoid it.Akalavashimu said:
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Koishi makes actions unconconsciously and is bloodlusted. She will do the first thing that pops up in her head, which would be to keep attacking.
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How about the moment Wil unleash his briah?
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Would Wil even have the chance to?
I think Koishi might teleport away from the sight of scary stakes, with a range still within the Briah. Although, she might consider the whole fight as a game and keep attacking. It's very hard to determine what such a powerful child would do.
I think Koishi might teleport away from the sight of scary stakes, with a range still within the Briah. Although, she might consider the whole fight as a game and keep attacking. It's very hard to determine what such a powerful child would do.
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> Would Wil even have the chance to?
From what actually?
Also is her disappearing/concept as imaginary friend also covering her life and soul completely?
From what actually?
Also is her disappearing/concept as imaginary friend also covering her life and soul completely?
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Koishi is bloodlusted. She's gonna blow up with danmaku and oneshot Wil
Her imaginary friend thing is her being a sunconconsious being. Her whole existence can't be remembered or noticed unless she wants you to.
Her imaginary friend thing is her being a sunconconsious being. Her whole existence can't be remembered or noticed unless she wants you to.
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Subconscious you mean. So that's mean her whole life force and soul are disappear too?
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yep, can't notice anything about her.
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Need prove for this one. And soul detect is ambigue againts her because there is no soul detection in toho as far i remember
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She's really straight and child is really lacking in sense of danger thats why they like to climb high thing and eat battery or any colorful itemsVeloxt1r0kore said:
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"Nonexistent Physiology (Mental. It is impossible to remember or even notice her)"Akalavashimu said:
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"As her actions are controlled entirely by her subconscious, Koishi's presence cannot be noticed by other beings unless she allows it, even while standing in plain view because she's closed her mind, or her Third Eye. Likewise, her older sister's ability to read minds has no effect on her, as she does not technically have a mind to read; that's why she said, "my sister can't win against me." Even someone who manages to communicate with Koishi will forget about her after she leaves, unless they already knew of her as Satori's sister.
Some children are immune to this effect due to their still-developing minds, leading Koishi to become their "imaginary friend", though they will forget about her when they grow up.[1]Other than making others unable to perceive her existence, it also makes the act of doing so difficult to perceive. Practically, without being noticed by tengu or the other youkai, she climbed Youkai Mountai. Even the optical camouflage was spoiled." -TouhouWiki
"Because she could act unconsciously, she remained unnoticed. She could go above ground, sneak past sleeping shrine maidens, or go into the mountain the tengu guarded, and nobody would take notice of her." -Official Subterranean Animism profile.
"She remembered nothing.
When she came to, she was blended into the crowd.
Not a soul noticed it.
Every day, she lived like that - without dreams, and without hopes." -Official Hopeless Masquerade profile
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"Since she cannot read minds, there is no longer any reason for others to hate her, but since her own mind is completely empty, she can no longer be liked by anyone either. Her presence cannot be felt by anyone unless she has entered their direct field of vision. And even if one can see her with their eyes, she will still be thought of as non-existent(*1). When she leaves one's sight, she is immediately forgotten."
"Despite Koishi's nature, her older sister does worry about her. Even her older sister can't see her because of her lack of a mind, but nonetheless her sister hasn't forgotten her."
"A youkai invisible to adults, and only visible to certain children. However, even those who played with them in their childhood will completely forget that they existed once they grow up. Has anything like that ever happened to you?(*2) They are often referred to as "imaginary friends." Koishi is, no doubt, an imaginary friend." -Symposium of Post-mysticism
"Despite Koishi's nature, her older sister does worry about her. Even her older sister can't see her because of her lack of a mind, but nonetheless her sister hasn't forgotten her."
"A youkai invisible to adults, and only visible to certain children. However, even those who played with them in their childhood will completely forget that they existed once they grow up. Has anything like that ever happened to you?(*2) They are often referred to as "imaginary friends." Koishi is, no doubt, an imaginary friend." -Symposium of Post-mysticism
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Wilhelm has to consciously perceive Koishi. No adult can consciously perceive Koishi, she is subconscious/unconscious.Akalavashimu said:
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Going with Koishi here for the higher chances of shooting first and likely better danmaku.
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Bloodlusted Koishi shouldn't even use spellcards or orderly danmaku. She'd just straight up use some omni-directional attack or explosion, since the spellcards only exist to limit them to playing games.
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It only aaid pressence and nothing about soul
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The soul's presence. Wil consciously perceives the soul like he consciously perceives the rest of the world right?
The soul is part of Koishi. When you've just met Koishi, you will not remember anything about her once you take your eyes off her. It's hard to even know if she exists unless you have indirect info like "Oh, she's Satori's sister."
Wilhelm is using soul sense, meaning he has to consciously perceive with a sense, albeit a new sense. You can't sense your subconscious. It's like trying to remember dreams you've forgotten.
The soul is part of Koishi. When you've just met Koishi, you will not remember anything about her once you take your eyes off her. It's hard to even know if she exists unless you have indirect info like "Oh, she's Satori's sister."
Wilhelm is using soul sense, meaning he has to consciously perceive with a sense, albeit a new sense. You can't sense your subconscious. It's like trying to remember dreams you've forgotten.
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