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Darui has like 2.something times AP advantage and speed amps but his moveset is pretty limited.
Main problem is that Daruis main fighting style is using his sword which should be pretty ass since Kid has magnetism shenanigans. Daruis main moves will probably be a combo of water and lightning style attacks
 
2.something times AP advantage
Yeah but Kid has crazy endurance to quote Kachon
Kid has pretty nutty endurance, being able to take attacks from people FAR stronger than himself and get up right after despite having to deal with bad headaches due to damage transferal hax. Kid was also able to spam his devil fruit awakening during his fight with Big Mom even though it was very taxing to his stamina. Kid also has willpower on the level of Luffy, which should make Kid capable of similar endurance feats to him, which includes being able to fight for over 13 hours against someone far stronger than himself, vomiting blood and suffering from extreme hunger in the process. Kid should also be superior to the likes of Jack, who could fight for 5 days straight.
and speed amps
Something we never see Darui take advantage of. You generally can tell when someone is using shunshin by visual effects, an example would be here. Darui isn't particularly known for his prowess in shunshin either which is something that shunshin spammers like Ay, Minato, Shisui etc.
Daruis main moves will probably be a combo of water and lightning style attacks
Water might be a problem, but lightning is something Kid has pretty good resistance towards as we can see here where he withstands a lightning infused sword strike while weakened without significant damage, and here he tanks a lightning bolt. Electricity also doesn't travel through his mechs either so he's probably all good on that front.
 
Something we never see Darui take advantage of. You generally can tell when someone is using shunshin by visual effects, an example would be here.
No you really don't. Shunshin has no visual queues. Even the panel you sent doesn't show any.
Darui isn't particularly known for his prowess in shunshin either which is something that shunshin spammers like Ay, Minato, Shisui etc.
Chakra enhancements are extremely common, he doesn't need to be known for it to say he would use it. People like Shisui are known for it because they're so good and efficient with the technique, not because they're the only ones to use it. Literally genin Sakura used it on screen.
Water might be a problem, but lightning is something Kid has pretty good resistance towards as we can see here where he withstands a lightning infused sword strike while weakened without significant damage, and here he tanks a lightning bolt. Electricity also doesn't travel through his mechs either so he's probably all good on that front.
Yeah I've seen that on his profile. Daruis best moves are probably going to be water release and laser circus. Iirc that's a huge weakness for OP characters.
His main problem will be his lack of a sword due to magnetism as that's his primary fighting style. That being said he's very proficient with water release as well as black lightning.
 
No you really don't. Shunshin has no visual queues. Even the panel you sent doesn't show any
Sakura disappears from view, then reappears which we never see Darui do.
Chakra enhancements are extremely common, he doesn't need to be known for it to say he would use it. People like Shisui are known for it because they're so good and efficient with the technique, not because they're the only ones to use it. Literally genin Sakura used it on screen.
I bring this up because there are known spammers of shunshin and Darui is not one of them. If this was something Darui used often it would have been brought up.
 
Sakura disappears from view, then reappears which we never see Darui do.
She doesn't…? And we see people use Shunshin without them "disappearing from the view". For example.
I bring this up because there are known spammers of shunshin and Darui is not one of them. If this was something Darui used often it would have been brought up.
Not really. They're not "spammers of shunshin" compared to the other characters. They're just specifically really good at it. Again, this is a genin level technique. The Raikage for example uses lightning release shunshin but it's only really mentioned by word once because it's a unique ability.
There's no reason to believe Darui doesn't or wouldn't use Shunshin. Especially given that he's mainly a close range fighter who's main fighting style revolves around getting close to his opponents before either slicing them apart or blasting them with his ninjutsu.
 
She doesn't…?
Top middle panel.
And we see people use Shunshin without them "disappearing from the view". For example.
If you can't tell when people are using Shunshin then how do you know that he's using it here?
Not really. They're not "spammers of shunshin" compared to the other characters. They're just specifically really good at it. Again, this is a genin level technique. The Raikage for example uses lightning release shunshin but it's only really mentioned by word once because it's a unique ability.
There's no reason to believe Darui doesn't or wouldn't use Shunshin. Especially given that he's mainly a close range fighter who's main fighting style revolves around getting close to his opponents before either slicing them apart or blasting them with his ninjutsu.
Still, it seems a little disingenuous to say that its his starting move.
 
Top middle panel.
She's not even shown in the panel that's just her footsteps. I honestly don't remember a single other scene where that's shown even when shunshin is outright stated to have been used.
If you can't tell when people are using Shunshin then how do you know that he's using it here?
It's verbatim stated in one of the pages by Obito…
Still, it seems a little disingenuous to say that its his starting move.
It doesn't need to be a starting move, just something he's willing to use if he needs it. Especially if he were to struggle with closing the distance
 
It doesn't need to be a starting move, just something he's willing to use if he needs it. Especially if he were to struggle with closing the distance
I’ll concede on the rest of that, but Kid has Instinctive Reaction and perception amps, so he has answers to Darui’s speed amps. Also Kid’s strongest attacks should be able to do serious damage, Punk Vise will crush him with higher LS while Punk Cornadio scales heavily above the 33 Exaton Value
Something like this:
33 Exatons<1 Homie Big Mom<2 Homie Big Mom<3 Homie Big Mom<Bigger Mom<Punk Cornadio
 
Anyway, Darui's Suiton jutsu is this one which is a pretty thin water wall Kid should be able to dodge by levitating. Although Kid does not usually dodge attacks he should be smart enough to dodge something he knows is a one shot (water). Kid can also absorb Raiton jutsu and Ranton via faraday cages or just block them with Punk Rotten. Voting Kid
 
Anyway, Darui's Suiton jutsu is this one which is a pretty thin water wall Kid should be able to dodge by levitating.
The link isn't working. But Daruis water release is pretty wide
waterreleasewaterwall-animeipics.gif

Not only that, his laser circus is essentially danmaku composed of water
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Mind you, he can control the beams so precisely that he could hit Kinkaku while he was holding Samui as a human shield without doing anything to Samui herself. And the amount of beams he can shoot is pretty wild.
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Meaning 2/3 of his go-to abilities are pretty wide range water based jursu. In character Darui would probably use Shunshin to get point blank close to Kid, then blast him with either laser circus or the water wall jutsu.
Although Kid does not usually dodge attacks he should be smart enough to dodge something he knows is a one shot (water).
Would he know the laser circus is made up of water and lightning from just looking at it?

Either way this looks pretty in favor of Darui so I'm voting him for now.
Nobody wants to debate about Daruis goofy ahh
 
The link isn't working. But Daruis water release is pretty wide
waterreleasewaterwall-animeipics.gif
Nothing precog+levitation couldn't handle.
Not only that, his laser circus is essentially danmaku composed of water
tumblr_p43pmqs0sy1urljpmo1_400.jpg

Mind you, he can control the beams so precisely that he could hit Kinkaku while he was holding Samui as a human shield without doing anything to Samui herself. And the amount of beams he can shoot is pretty wild.
Screenshot-2024-03-18-17-23-39-574-eu-kanade-tachiyomi-edit.jpg

Meaning 2/3 of his go-to abilities are pretty wide range water based jursu. In character Darui would probably use Shunshin to get point blank close to Kid, then blast him with either laser circus or the water wall jutsu.

Would he know the laser circus is made up of water and lightning from just looking at it?

Either way this looks pretty in favor of Darui so I'm voting him for now.
Nobody wants to debate about Daruis goofy ahh
It just being water doesn't mean auto defeat, it has to submerge him knee deep in water and as soon as he's out of the water then all of his energy returns. Basically Darui needs to consistently submerge his bottom half in water to win.
 
Nothing precog+levitation couldn't handle.
How good is the precog? Because that's a pretty wide range to avoid from point blank range.
It just being water doesn't mean auto defeat, it has to submerge him knee deep in water and as soon as he's out of the water then all of his energy returns. Basically Darui needs to consistently submerge his bottom half in water to win.
Hmmm then just hitting him would suffice ig? Darui has an over 2x AP advantage and can hit his target with several beams at once. That should be enough to at least incap him until Darui blasts him with his other water release.
 
How good is the precog? Because that's a pretty wide range to avoid from point blank range.
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Here's a comparison for how big it is compared to the tower in the above panel
Hmmm then just hitting him would suffice ig?
No, not at all.
Darui has an over 2x AP advantage and can hit his target with several beams at once.
Beams not even a meter wide, and Kid has insane stamina as was highlighted above, on top of his durability upscaling from his value so neither their water property nor a.p will incap him
That should be enough to at least incap him until Darui blasts him with his other water release.
Which will only maybe keep him still for a second before it washes away.
 
Darui would most likely use shunshin to close the gap/blitz Kidd with single off attacks, chances of him using it continuously is unlikely, there are very few people in the Naruto verse that fight that way.

You can argue observation haki can somewhat make up for that speed difference due to kidd arguably having better observation than Doflamingo who can make up a massive speed gap against Gear 4 Luffy with his haki.

I think Kidd can win by utilizing his assign to forcefully hold down Darui preventing him from using hand signs and leaving him completely vulnerable for a few moments, It'll also most likely catch him offguard since it can be casted at a distance, while nothing Darui can intend on using would completely catch kidd offguard due to observation haki.

I dont know if Darui has any stamina or endurance feats so its hard to say whether or not he can walk this off, but Kidd has some of the best endurance in one piece so he has a lot of room error and surprises, once Kidd gets used to Darui's skillset he'll most likely create a plan to use his insane lifting strength to compress Darui's internal organs or at least cause severe damage.

So for now, Kidd fra
 
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