Naruto Uzumaki vs Monkey D. Luffy

[Nierre]

yeah the speed doesn't really matter that much as Naruto's gonna be burning himself out as Luffy's way more skilled and versatile than Naruto is

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Plus wouldn't his rasengan be a 1 hit KO? Dura neg plus many times ap advantage in that one attack

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Was it that key of luffy, or a different key because if so the feats wont matter.

Luffy's first 1v1 against kuro whos base speed blitzed luffy and while amped speed luffy defeated him quite easily

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Plus wouldn't his rasengan be a 1 hit KO? Dura neg plus many times ap advantage in that one attack

No... Stop... Won't do any damage, luffy is the one that can one shot via bfr

 

[SnookB]

Was it that key of luffy, or a different key because if so the feats wont matter.

Like 3/4 arcs before skypiea. Syrup island is before Baratie, Arlong Park, Alabasta, Little Garden- etc

 

[speedster352]

Asta's RE isn't RE. Luffy's RE literally allows him to overcome a poison that previously downed him in less than minutes later.
That's actual RE, not "he can see a move an react to it".

What Monkey said.
Luffy's reflexes are redonk tbh. I'm keeping my vote. It's close, but Naruto's chances at beating Luffy before he burns himself out are low

That’s would be adaptation not RE

 

[Nierre]

Plus wouldn't his rasengan be a 1 hit KO?

It's in 1 shot territory yeah. Since Naruto's Vermillion Rasengan scales to CS2 Sasuke which is 10x CS1 Sasuke which makes the gap ~6.1x in Naruto's favor with Rasengan.

So it will do very fatal damage to Luffy for sure, and yes that's a valid wincon, but I still think Luffy takes this more times than not.

Dura neg

Not dura neg. for the second time


Also now that I'm on Naruto's page, Naruto has Corrosion Inducement with his Kyubi Cloak. How can Luffy bypass the cloak?

I mean I guess Luffy can try to push through but.. he'll be hurting himself at the same time, and Naruto will just regen too

 

[speedster352]

It's in 1 shot territory yeah. Since Naruto's Vermillion Rasengan scales to CS2 Sasuke which is 10x CS1 Sasuke which makes the gap ~6.1x in Naruto's favor with Rasengan.

So it will do very fatal damage to Luffy for sure, and yes that's a valid wincon, but I still think Luffy takes this more times than not.

Not dura neg. for the second time


Also now that I'm on Naruto's page, Naruto has Corrosion Inducement with his Kyubi Cloak. How can Luffy bypass the cloak?

I mean I guess Luffy can try to push through but.. he'll be hurting himself at the same time, and Naruto will just regen too

Exactly so Naruto can win this

 

[YoutubeForKing]

It's in 1 shot territory yeah. Since Naruto's Vermillion Rasengan scales to CS2 Sasuke which is 10x CS1 Sasuke which makes the gap ~6.1x in Naruto's favor with Rasengan.

So it will do very fatal damage to Luffy for sure, and yes that's a valid wincon, but I still think Luffy takes this more times than not.

Not dura neg. for the second time


Also now that I'm on Naruto's page, Naruto has Corrosion Inducement with his Kyubi Cloak. How can Luffy bypass the cloak?

I mean I guess Luffy can try to push through but.. he'll be hurting himself at the same time, and Naruto will just regen too

Wait i thought curse mark wasn't excepted as a 10x amp? Or was that only sage mode? Naruto scaling on this site got me confused.

 

[Nierre]

Exactly so Naruto can win this

Yeah I never said he didn't have a wincon

My vote still stays the same though, I think Luffy can always just tire Naruto out if his attacks are ineffective

 

[speedster352]

Yeah I never said he didn't have a wincon

My vote still stays the same though, I think Luffy can always just tire Naruto out if his attacks are ineffective

Naruto has instinctive reaction and is being provided chakra by kurama so his stamina is not that bad since he is an uzumaki afterall.
All previous abilities enhanced, Berserk Mode, Corrosion Inducement, Vibration Manipulation, Rage Power (Grows stronger the angrier he gets), Regeneration (Low-Mid; Regenerated in an instant after Sasuke pierced through his chest and right lung), Immortality (Type 3), Body Control (Can create chakra arms to attack targets from a distance and grant him better mobility and maneuverability), His chakra can act as a forcefield around him, Instinctive Reaction (his chakra instinctively attacks and defends for him), Poison Manipulation with Kurama's chakra , and Resistance to Poison Manipulation (Kurama's chakra acts like a poisonthat's difficult for even a skilled medic, who's well versed in countering deadly poisons, to properly heal. Naruto is seemingly immune to these effects, and recovers from them very quickly)

 

[SnookB]

That’s would be adaptation not RE

It isn't; He didn't adapt to it. It was still hurting him but he just didn't succumb to its effect

 

[Nierre]

Wait i thought curse mark wasn't excepted as a 10x amp? Or was that only sage mode? Naruto scaling on this site got me confused.

Fr idk I'm looking at Sasuke's AP and it says it's a 10x amp.

 

[Nierre]

Anyway, Luffy's wincon: Tiring Naruto out, then beating the shit out of him

Naruto's wincon: Uhhh Corrosion/Poison + Regen and Rasengan

 

[speedster352]

Anyway, Luffy's wincon: Tiring Naruto out, then beating the shit out of him

Naruto's wincon: Uhhh Corrosion + Regen and Rasengan

And instinctive reaction and chakra arms, screams and etc

 

[YoutubeForKing]

So 4 people for luffy and 2 for naruto

 

[SnookB]

Speedster, "having a wincon" doesn't equal "winning". It comes down to who would win more on average and in this case it's Luffy.

Luffy would adjust to Naruto's speed easily. Naruto has no skill in that form and relies on brute force, so Luffy handles him up close. Luffy also uses the environment to his advantage when he knows his opponent's can hurt him too much or can't touch them directly.
His Superior LS is so vast that attacks like Bazooka would sent Naruto to brazil another island, and he has instinctive reaction as well that would determine clones from originals on a first try based on little Garden.
He can also amp his AP via twisting/stretching and double it with two handed attacks (Bazooka in this case being able to bfr a mf).

I don't see Naruto winning this as often. Luffy just outlasts him then KO's him, or blasts him to another country mid-way through the fight

 

[speedster352]

Speedster, "having a wincon" doesn't equal "winning". It comes down to who would win more on average and in this case it's Luffy.

Luffy would adjust to Naruto's speed easily. Naruto has no skill in that form and relies on brute force, so Luffy handles him up close. Luffy also uses the environment to his advantage when he knows his opponent's can hurt him too much or can't touch them directly.
His Superior LS is so vast that attacks like Bazooka would sent Naruto to brazil another island, and he has instinctive reaction as well that would determine clones from originals on a first try based on little Garden.
He can also amp his AP via twisting/stretching and double it with two handed attacks (Bazooka in this case being able to bfr a mf).

I don't see Naruto winning this as often. Luffy just outlasts him then KO's him, or blasts him to another country mid-way through the fight

Naruto has instinctive reactions, very high stamina, and cannot be hit by luffy because of posion and corrosion inducement. Chakra arms and low mid regen.

 

[SnookB]

Naruto has instinctive reactions

So does Luffy.

very high stamina

Not in this form he doesn't. It burns him out extremely fast.

and cannot be hit by luffy because of posion and corrosion inducement

Luffy resists both. He resisted Crocodile's poison which could melt/corrode rocks on contact and fought until he won.

Chakra arms

Luffy's range embarrasses that.

low mid regen

Won't matter if he gets KO'D, BFR'D or outlasted. All things which Luffy can do.

 

[speedster352]

So does Luffy.

Not in this form he doesn't. It burns him out extremely fast.

Luffy resists both. He resisted Crocodile's poison which could melt/corrode rocks on contact and fought until he won.

Luffy's range embarrasses that.

Won't matter if he gets KO'D, BFR'D or outlasted. All things which Luffy can do.

Kurama clock is not normal poison and is way more lethal. Bfr is mot ic most of the time.

 

[SnookB]

Kurama clock is not normal poison and is way more lethal.

It'd be nice if you could show me HOW LETHAL instead of just saying it-
Croc's poison can dissolve rocks and paralyze a person and kill them via cardiac arrest fairly fast. Luffy literally just IGNORES that and beats the hell out of him anyway. While bleeding out and using his blood as a means to touch crocodile, too.

Bfr is mot ic most of the time.

It was vs Buggy and Wapol. Characters he didn't BFR were just comparable in LS to him.

 

[LordGinSama]

Plus wouldn't his rasengan be a 1 hit KO? Dura neg plus many times ap advantage in that one attack

It doesn't have durability negation, you'd need a CRT to make it durability negation as currently it isn't listed as such.


Voting Luffy FRA.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

It's in 1 shot territory yeah. Since Naruto's Vermillion Rasengan scales to CS2 Sasuke which is 10x CS1 Sasuke which makes the gap ~6.1x in Naruto's favor with Rasengan.

So it will do very fatal damage to Luffy for sure,

Why would it be fatal damage to Luffy?

 

[Nierre]

Why would it be fatal damage to Luffy?

Well not necessarily "fatal"

But Corrosion + 6.1x AP will do ALOT of damage

 

[SnookB]

Well not necessarily "fatal"

But Corrosion + 6.1x AP will do ALOT of damage

The corrosion doesn't get multiplied though.
Also the Rasengan doesn't function like the dials where it negs dura via air pressure, so Luffy's body straight up tanks it unless it's CRT'd to be dura neg

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Gomu Gomu no Mi (Rubber Rubber Fruit): A Paramecia type Devil Fruit, this fruit turns the user’s body into rubber. The fruit's major strength, as demonstrated by Luffy, is that the person's body can stretch like rubber even when the ability user himself is nullified. It also makes them almost entirely immune to blunt attacks, including hand-to-hand combat, bullets or even cannonballs (this mechanic is further explained here)

It’s on Luffy’s page btw…

 

[Nierre]

The corrosion doesn't get multiplied though.

I didnt say it multiplies?

Also the Rasengan doesn't function like the dials where it negs dura via air pressure, so Luffy's body straight up tanks it unless it's CRT'd to be dura neg

7.5x is enough of a gap to one shot in wiki standards

So regardless it should still do decent damage

 

[SnookB]

7.5x is enough of a gap to one shot in wiki standards

So regardless it should still do decent damage

You forgot who you're trying to apply those rules to. Luffy's damage absorption is dozens if not hundreds of times over what his dura shoould actually be, because of the fruit. Naruto isn't stretching Luffy's body enough with Rasengan to do any damage, let alone "decent". Corrosion is the only reason it'd hurt and even then Luffy's delt with that inside his body, let alone on the outside

 

[Nierre]

You forgot who you're trying to apply those rules to. Luffy's damage absorption is dozens if not hundreds of times over what his dura shoould actually be, because of the fruit. Naruto isn't stretching Luffy's body enough with Rasengan to do any damage, let alone "decent".

k

Corrosion is the only reason it'd hurt and even then Luffy's delt with that inside his body, let alone on the outside

When has he dealt with corrosion?

 

[SnookB]

When has he dealt with corrosion?

Croc's poison corrodes rocks during Alabasta and Luffy gets hit by it twice. It's on his resistances too.

 

[Nierre]

oh frick im blind

 

[SnookB]

That's why I was asking how potent Naruto's corrosion is. Because if it isn't THAT bad (and Luffy can take that inside of his body and somehow continue fighting Croc for a whole round) then it won't be too big of a hassle when Luffy lands hits

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Bump

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Luffy can't bypass Narutos regen, so Naruto just increases his AP with his range and overwhelms him.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Luffy can't bypass Narutos regen, so Naruto just increases his AP with his range and overwhelms him.

Luffy has the range advantage and can one shot with bfr

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

That's not a wincon, winning by BFR means you remove them from the battlefield for a week.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That's not a wincon, winning by BFR means you remove them from the battlefield for a week.

Yee, and luffy can do that. Also luffy can counter naruto's regen by outlasting him as he will run out of Chakra, luffy has higher LS and can stop all of his movements plus get much stronger and faster in fights via reactive power lvl... Stop being biased, this naruto isn't defeating this luffy

You say that's not a wincon yet you didn't provide any wincon, overwhelming someone isn't a wincon.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Yee, and luffy can do that. Also luffy can counter naruto's regen by outlasting him as he will run out of Chakra, luffy has higher LS and can stop all of his movements plus get much stronger and faster in fights via reactive power lvl... Stop being biased, this naruto isn't defeating this luffy

You say that's not a wincon yet you didn't provide any wincon, overwhelming someone isn't a wincon.

Show me evidence of Luffy constantly BFRing someone for a week straight.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Show me evidence of Luffy constantly BFRing someone for a week straight.

Limited BFR (Can send others flying over the horizon and into distant lands)

Just check luffy's page...

The person couldn't even come back

Actually here is what happened to him which you can see 2 arcs after

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Just check luffy's page...

The person never even came back

I know where he has it from, that doesn't mean he'll constantly use it for a week straight on someone until you provide evidence of him doing so. Also to touch on the LS argument, current Naruto does have an accepted feat of Class T which is over 70,000 times higher than luffys. It's not on the profile due to the verse being in the middle of revision, but the AP aspect of the feat is currently on the profile so I think it's fine to use. Another thing, Naruto also gets stronger and faster the angrier he gets, so Luffy isn't going to be be blitzing or one shooting him.