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just read it and it didn't give me any info you haven't already presented. If anything it hurt your case since Bang actually WAS hit by Garou and WASN'T reduced to powder. In fact, it's the shockwaves were powderizing the rocks. And it is outright stated that throughout the fight Bang was being worn down by the very same shockwaves. It clearly does not do what you're claiming against an equalized durability opponentThen read chapter 153
wdym? The very same technique that's being used to "powderize" Shock Rock did internal damage to Bang, didn't do anything to him that Shock Rock wouldn't be able to regeneratebut I don't think it's regen is high enough to come back after being grinded up like that (Likely over a period of time)
Bang was redirecting his attacks with WSRSF, but despite that he was still getting harmed by the shockwaves.just read it and it didn't give me any info you haven't already presented. If anything it hurt your case since Bang actually WAS hit by Garou and WASN'T reduced to powder. In fact, it's the shockwaves were powderizing the rocks. And it is outright stated that throughout the fight Bang was being worn down by the very same shockwaves. It clearly does not do what you're claiming against an equalized durability opponent
to me it seems clear that he should be able to deflect them with little effortI still haven't seen anything garou can do to get close and or dodge shockrock's range attacks
Here. Read from page 32 to page 40.I still haven't seen anything garou can do to get close and or dodge shockrock's range attacks
No... You say that with not even having seen themto me it seems clear that he should be able to deflect them with little effort
What does Omni-enhanced energy do? What's makes it so he can't deflect them?He can deflect Omni-enhanced energy ?
yes, he redirected the attacks, was constantly hit by shockwaves, as I said in the post you're replying to. The shockwaves are explicitely what powderizes stone. Bang was hit by the shockwaves REPEATEDLY and sustained internal damage, wasn't split into pieces or anything like that. High Mid regen covers that easilyBang was redirecting his attacks with WSRSF, but despite that he was still getting harmed by the shockwaves.
I did and what?Here. Read from page 32 to page 40.
Which?that seems like a speed feat to me
Bang was not hit. Bomb says himself that if he gets hit, the shockwaves will shatter him, and that didn't happen, proving that he was not hit by RASRF.yes, he redirected the attacks, was constantly hit by shockwaves, as I said in the post you're replying to. The shockwaves are explicitely what powderizes stone. Bang was hit by the shockwaves REPEATEDLY and sustained internal damage, wasn't split into pieces or anything like that. High Mid regen covers that easily
Why would that matter?@Kachon123 let me ask you this: Is Bang able to kill Zombieman?
He can dodge, he can also redirect while moving close for an attack.I did and what?
If he got hit by a main attack the shockwaves would envelope him. He got hit by the shockwaves either wayBang was not hit. Bomb says himself that if he gets hit, the shockwaves will shatter him, and that didn't happen, proving that he was not hit by RASRF.
Same exact chapter you told me to read, page 8: Bang literally says "This is bad... Even as I deflect, damage from the shockwaves is adding up."Bang uses the WSRSF, which redirects attacks so that the user doesn't take damage. Bang wasn't getting hit by Garou.
NLF fallacy to assume he can cause this isn't some casual laser blast, omni enhanced energy is what their homeworld was made up of and their current mothership planet Fulmas II is run by, Pseudo flight also doesn't allow him to go into outerspace either compared to an actual spaceflight.What does Omni-enhanced energy do? What's makes it so he can't deflect them?
Because zombieman and shock rock both have high mid regen. Admittedly, Zombieman's is better, but still if you are correct that Garou can powderize actual opponents instead of just the random rocks around him, then he should have the ability to kill Zombieman as it implied plenty of times that he can't regenerate from that kind of damageWhy would that matter?
Yes, he's not getting hit head on. Even when the fight eventually ended, Bang got grazed. That goes to show how deadly it is.If he got hit by a main attack the shockwaves would envelope him. He got hit by the shockwaves either way
Same exact chapter you told me to read, page 8: Bang literally says "This is bad... Even as I deflect, damage from the shockwaves is adding up."
What are his projectiles? Is it energy?NLF fallacy to assume he can cause this isn't some casual laser blast, omni enhanced energy is what their homeworld was made up of and their current mothership planet Fulmas II is run by, Pseudo flight also doesn't allow him to go into outerspace either compared to an actual spaceflight.
The difference is that Shock Rock's regen is dependent on his armor. Once Garou breaks it, he can't regen, at least thats what I was told by people in this thread (correct me if i'm wrong).Because zombieman and shock rock both have high mid regen. Admittedly, Zombieman's is better, but still if you are correct that Garou can powderize actual opponents instead of just the random rocks around him, then he should have the ability to kill Zombieman as it implied plenty of times that he can't regenerate from that kind of damage
Are the rocks that he turned into powder being hit head on? You gotta be consistentYes, he's not getting hit head on.
Sure, deadly to people without good regen. As I've said so many times, Bang did not sustain any damage that Shock Rock wouldn't be able to regenerate based purely on the scans posted in this threadEven when the fight eventually ended, Bang got grazed. That goes to show how deadly it is.
Bomb said it would break all his bones into pieces. This is recoverable with High Mid regenBang was deflecting the attacks, but the residue of the attacks where still damaging him. If Bang got hit with a full on attack, which he didn't, he would've gotten shattered, as Bomb said.
The difference is that Shock Rock's regen is dependent on his armor. Once Garou breaks it, he can't regen, at least thats what I was told by people in this thread (correct me if i'm wrong).
Not just technically when he was teleported at at 0:35 his "Omni-Energy was gone" leaving the armor behind, Rock armor is just there for extra protection (Plus he's got Omni-Naut space armor on top of that in this form)
Also he can BFRSo sentient energy puppeteering pieces of armor.
Bang didn't sustain high damage because he didn't get hit with a full attack. Stop ignoring what I'm saying.Sure, deadly to people without good regen. As I've said so many times, Bang did not sustain any damage that Shock Rock wouldn't be able to regenerate based purely on the scans posted in this thread
Once the armor is broken, he can't regen.Bomb said it would break all his bones into pieces. This is recoverable with High Mid regen
it's not like the armor needs to stay intact. The only way I can see Garou winning this fight is if he can powderize the armor itself. The armor is dura equalized, so I don't see how he could do that since he has no feats of turning things with actually notable durability into powder. He has no statements of such either. He turns fodder into powder and does big damage to characters with durabilityThe difference is that Shock Rock's regen is dependent on his armor. Once Garou breaks it, he can't regen, at least thats what I was told by people in this thread (correct me if i'm wrong).
Garou has reactive power lvl. He gets stronger and faster has he is fighting something.it's not like the armor needs to stay intact. The only way I can see Garou winning this fight is if he can powderize the armor itself. The armor is dura equalized, so I don't see how he could do that since he has no feats of turning things with actually notable durability into powder. He has no statements of such either. He turns fodder into powder and does big damage to characters with durability
I'm literally not ignoring your arguments, I'm explaining why they're wrong only for you to repeat the same argument. The powder feat was not done with a full attack, it was done with shockwaves. Bang got hit by shockwaves and wasn't powderized. Even if he was hit by a full attack and shockwaves enveloped his whole body, he STILL wouldn't be powderized, all his bones would be broken into piecesBang didn't sustain high damage because he didn't get hit with a full attack. Stop ignoring what I'm saying.
You can clearly see in the clip of Shock Rock regenerating that he can regen from armor that's been broken to piecesOnce the armor is broken, he can't regen.
So? Sure, as the fight goes on he out-AP's and out-speed's Shock Rock over time. Why does that suddenly let him bypass regen?Garou has reactive power lvl. He gets stronger and faster has he is fighting something.
Explain to me how he redirects or dodes this, which it seems to have a distance of At least KilometersWhy would that matter?
He can dodge, he can also redirect while moving close for an attack.
Is that his limit?You can clearly see in the clip of Shock Rock regenerating that he can regen from armor that's been broken to pieces
did you do the wrong link by accident? This just takes me to Shock Rock's character pageExplain to me how he redirects or dodes this
By jumping back. He has instinctive reaction. His body moves on its own when it's in danger.Explain to me how he redirects or dodes this
I don't know, I don't watch the ben 10 reboot, I'm exclusively going off information presented in this threadIs that his limit?
did you do the wrong link by accident? This just takes me to Shock Rock's character page
It works for me...did you do the wrong link by accident? This just takes me to Shock Rock's character page