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Elden Ring General Discussion

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Also is it weird I never found Mohg that hard? I had more trouble with Rykard tbh.

And I beat Mohg at like, 130+ with Moonveil and before I even travels to the snowy mountains
 
I think current Malenia should at least downscale from the At least 7-A, possibly 4-A tier
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I'm not for this at all. Mohg is fought after Malenia (seemingly) and we fight her base form right before her enhanced form. She's just a higher level of possibly High 4-C rather than straight 4-A. The 4-A rating being only gotten due to downscaling from immediate boss fights more than anything.
Unlocated demigods

  • "There are four more demigods yet to be located. Miquella of the Haligtree, the Unalloyed. His twin, Malenia, the undefeated swordswoman. Lunar Princess Ranni, daughter to Rennala. And the one only known as the Lord of Blood. Ranni is said to have cast aside her Great Rune, so here at the Hold, we seek the whereabouts of the remaining three shardbearers. If you should learn anything of these matters, I'll trade your findings for a hidden treasure, or a long-lost rite, known only to me. We both desire to stand before the Elden Ring, and become Elden Lord. As such, I hope we are compelled to work together."
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After reaching Consecrated Snowfield

  • Ahh, I see you've laid your hands on the other secret medallion.
    I'm glad to see my counsel has borne fruit, but the honour of the deed is yours alone.
    You've made more of yourself than Ensha has...
    Now, more importantly, both secret medallions are in your hands.
    I suppose you'd like to know then? What awaits you on the path ahead?
    Me too, my friend, me too. I wait with baited breath.
After reaching Miquella's Haligtree

  • Ahh, so the secret medallion led you to the land of the Haligtree?
    I'd expect to find Malenia there. She who fought Radahn to a standstill.
    Well, if the scarlet rot hasn't eaten her away completely.
    But...with the Haligtree as it is... I suppose Miquella must already be...
    Ah, my apologies. Lost myself, for a moment there.
    The information you've shared is of great value. As promised, your reward:
    A secret rite known only to me.
    You are a true fellow. All I ask is that you remain constant.
    [Gives Black Flame's Protection]
After defeating Malenia, Blade of Miquella

  • So. The Haligtree, now but a husk... I heard speculation Miquella embedded himself in the Haligtree,
    but before he could finish, someone cut the tree open and absconded with his infant form.
    Indeed, it seems those words held weight. How vexing. That the All-knowing didn't have the full story...
    Perhaps the Queen's sorrow was justified... Ah, my apologies. Lost myself, for a moment there.
    The information you've shared is of great value. As promised, your reward:
    A secret rite known only to me.
    You are a true fellow. All I ask is that you remain constant.
    [Gives Lord's Divine Fortification]
After reaching Mohgwyn Dynasty Mausoleum

  • Oh, so that's where the so-called Lord of Blood was hiding himself eh.
    A fitting little squat for that deluded maniac to bleat about the revival of his precious dynasty, while he turns our fellow Tarnished into Bloody Fingers.
    Let him stay there. That way, his delusions will remain as the are - distant and unattainable.
    But perhaps it's worth looking into... If what I've heard is right, then maybe...
    Ah, my apologies. Lost myself, for a moment there.
    The information you've shared is of great value. As promised, your reward:
    A secret rite known only to me.
    You are a true fellow. All I ask is that you remain constant.
    [Gives Fevor's Cookbook (3)]
After defeating Mohg, Lord of Blood

  • Ahh, I see! So Miquella was with the Lord of Blood after all! That is some fine intelligence indeed!
    With it, the final clue has been brought into the light.
    One of the last few pieces the Roundtable-- I need, to put everything together.
    As promised, allow me to impart to you the last of the secret rites known only to me.
    [Gives Law of Causality]
  • Well I wonder what comes next...
    If he continues his slumber within the cocoon, all will be well.
    But perhaps it would be safer to destroy it.
    Miquella is the one thing that remains a mystery to me...
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His speech follows that he doesn't know where Miquella is after you beat the Haligtree and after you find him in Mohg's palace he calls it "The final clue". The implication being that you first beat Malenia, then Mohg and then probably the Fire Giant in that order.
 
I found a way around nihil, and that was just me using healing items everytime he does nihil.

Also I cheesed him with Comet Azur so maybe that wasn't a fair fight
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Also is it weird I never found Mohg that hard? I had more trouble with Rykard tbh.

And I beat Mohg at like, 130+ with Moonveil and before I even travels to the snowy mountains
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The thing with Mohg is that his arena is restrained and he moves slower than the rest of the bosses, he's merely extremely fast rather than blinding teleportation fast as the other bosses. Plus, having the crystal tear removes the most dangerous aspect of the fight
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
The thing with Mohg is that his arena is restrained and he moves slower than the rest of the bosses, he's merely extremely fast rather than blinding teleportation fast as the other bosses. Plus, having the crystal tear removes the most dangerous aspect of the fight
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I didn't know Crystal Tear existed much later after I killed Mohg 💀
 
Can Radagon back hand comet azura like he can with other spells or does it pierce through his backhand?
 
Funny how I played as a full-blown mage on my two playthrough and only rarely used Comet Azur (my money went more into Rock Sling)
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Also is it weird I never found Mohg that hard? I had more trouble with Rykard tbh.

And I beat Mohg at like, 130+ with Moonveil and before I even travels to the snowy mountains
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Opposite of me. I got violated by Mohg and had to cheese him, I casually beat Rykard in 2 or 3 tries first playthrough.
 
RinneItachi said:
Opposite of me. I got violated by Mohg and had to cheese him, I casually beat Rykard in 2 or 3 tries first playthrough.
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I got wrecked by Rykard until I realized you were given the serpent hunter for a reason. And then I made Rykard into fodder.

It's a shame the weapon is ass afterwards
 
Rykard got me the most with the Beast, Malenia and Radahn on my first playthrough even with the serpent hunter but I don't regret anything since that fight was awesome beyond expectations

Mohg, I got him on the first try thanks to knowing about the crystal tear and simply having the cheese chad Mimic Tear with my level 174 mage build with me
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I got wrecked by Rykard until I realized you were given the serpent hunter for a reason. And then I made Rykard into fodder.

It's a shame the weapon is ass afterwards
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I used it immediately. Upgraded it to +4 after the first death because I figured there'd be a second phase. The Rykard phase wasn't hard at all tbh. Pretty cool with that one chaotic attack, but I think the God Devouring Serpent was harder.
 
RinneItachi said:
I used it immediately. Upgraded it to +4 after the first death because I figured there'd be a second phase. The Rykard phase wasn't hard at all tbh. Pretty cool with that one chaotic attack, but I think the God Devouring Serpent was harder.
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Tbf Rykard is much slower with his attacks while the Serpent is really, really fast, faster than most bosses actually. Rykard just happens to hit like a truck, has an absurd health pool (I think it was said he has the highest health pool among all Fromsoftware bosses) and insane range and at one point decides to literally unleash Hell on your face
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Tbf Rykard is much slower with his attacks while the Serpent is really, really fast, faster than most bosses actually. Rykard just happens to hit like a truck, has an absurd health pool (I think it was said he has the highest health pool among all Fromsoftware bosses) and insane range and at one point decides to literally unleash Hell on your face
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That's saying a lot considering the Ancient Dragon from Dark Souls 2 exists.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I'm not for this at all. Mohg is fought after Malenia (seemingly) and we fight her base form right before her enhanced form. She's just a higher level of possibly High 4-C rather than straight 4-A. The 4-A rating being only gotten due to downscaling from immediate boss fights more than anything.


His speech follows that he doesn't know where Miquella is after you beat the Haligtree and after you find him in Mohg's palace he calls it "The final clue". The implication being that you first beat Malenia, then Mohg and then probably the Fire Giant in that order.
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I'm aware of that, I was going under the fact that Haligtree is apparently after The Elden Throne stuff which would make Malenia comparable to other endgame bosses. But then again it could just be gameplay and not actually lore.

A new key probably isn't necessarry
 
If I were to rank Elden Ring Remembrance bosses, including Margit even though he doesn't have a Remembrance, from hardest to easiest (in my experience of course, so even if I was underleveled or overleveled) on my first character:

Omegachad Starscourge Radahn.

Radagon/Elden Beast.

Fire Giant.

Margit, The Fell Omen.

Mohg, Lord of Blood (although tbh he'd probably be number 2 if I beat him the right way instead of cheesing).

Maliketh, the Black Blade.

Godrick the Grafted.

Gigachad Godfrey/Daddy Loux.

Rennala.

Malenia (I trivialized Malenia so hard lmao).

Morgott, the Omen King

Rykard.

Pacidusax.

Regal Ancestor Spirit, Astel, and Fortissax I kinda fodderized. They didn't kill me one.
 
All the other Outer Gods: *actively try their hardest to spread their influence over the Lands Between by choosing/cursing champions, manipulating people, performing genocides and mssacres over entire species, establishing persecussions or corrupting the very land and really life itself when they're not simply sadists who desire nothing more tha death and suffering or want to obliterate everything and everyone.

Meanwhile the Dark Moon:

  • Is simply content with chillin' in outer space
  • Doesn't care about having followers or spreading its influence
  • Has to be contacted by those seeking its knowledge to notice them
  • Simply gives them some knowledge on how to make sorceries and lets them do what they want with it
  • Refuses to elaborate
  • Leaves and returns to chillin'
 
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All the other Virgin Outer Gods: *actively try their hardest to spread their influence over the Lands Between by choosing/cursing champions, manipulating people, performing genocides and mssacres over entire species, establishing persecussions or corrupting the very land and really life itself when they're not simply sadists who desire nothing more tha death and suffering or want to obliterate everything and everyone.

Meaninwhile the Gigachad Dark Moon:

  • Is simply content with chillin' in outer space
  • Desn't care about having followers or spreading its influence
  • Has to be contacted by those seeking its knowledge to notice them
  • Simply gives them some knowledge on how to make sorceries and lets them do what they want with it
  • Refuses to elaborate
  • Leaves and returns to chillin'
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Fixed it for you.
 
RinneItachi said:
If I were to rank Elden Ring Remembrance bosses, including Margit even though he doesn't have a Remembrance, from hardest to easiest (in my experience of course, so even if I was underleveled or overleveled) on my first character:

Omegachad Starscourge Radahn.

Radagon/Elden Beast.

Fire Giant.

Margit, The Fell Omen.

Mohg, Lord of Blood (although tbh he'd probably be number 2 if I beat him the right way instead of cheesing).

Maliketh, the Black Blade.

Godrick the Grafted.

Gigachad Godfrey/Daddy Loux.

Rennala.

Malenia (I trivialized Malenia so hard lmao).

Morgott, the Omen King

Rykard.

Pacidusax.

Regal Ancestor Spirit, Astel, and Fortissax I kinda fodderized. They didn't kill me one.
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For me it was:

1. Malenia
2. Elden Beast
3. Placidusaxx
4. Maliketh
5. Margit
6. Rykard
7. Mohg
8. Astel
9. Rennala
10. Radahn
11. Morgott
12. Godfrey
13. Fortisaxx
14. Godrick
15.. Regal Ancestor Spirit

If I could put Draconic Tree Sentinel he'd be number 2 on god, **** this dude.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
All the other Outer Gods: *actively try their hardest to spread their influence over the Lands Between by choosing/cursing champions, manipulating people, performing genocides and mssacres over entire species, establishing persecussions or corrupting the very land and really life itself when they're not simply sadists who desire nothing more tha death and suffering or want to obliterate everything and everyone.

Meaninwhile the Dark Moon:

  • Is simply content with chillin' in outer space
  • Doesn't care about having followers or spreading its influence
  • Has to be contacted by those seeking its knowledge to notice them
  • Simply gives them some knowledge on how to make sorceries and lets them do what they want with it
  • Refuses to elaborate
  • Leaves and returns to chillin'
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Dark moon best outer god fr. I like how the frenzied flame is just burning everything, it doesn't rule it just wants chaos
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
For me it was:

1. Malenia
2. Elden Beast
3. Placidusaxx
4. Maliketh
5. Margit
6. Rykard
7. Mohg
8. Astel
9. Rennala
10. Radahn
11. Morgott
12. Godfrey
13. Fortisaxx
14. Godrick
15.. Regal Ancestor Spirit

If I could put Draconic Tree Sentinel he'd be number 2 on god, **** this dude.
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I still don't understand how you had so much trouble with the Draconic Tree Sentinel. Sure, I got lucky when I beat him on my first try because I barely timed that poison shit correctly but he wasn't that difficult.
 
1. Radagon/Elden Beast
2. Margit
3. Rennala
4. Melenia
5. Placidusax
6. Maliketh
7. Mohg
8. Godrick
9. Radahn
10. Godfrey
11. Fire Giant
12. Morgott
13. Astel
14. Fortisax

I'm probably forgetting one, and I didnt fight the Regal Ancestor Spirit

Fixed

Silly me, I mixed up Margit with Godrick
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I still don't understand how you had so much trouble with the Draconic Tree Sentinel. Sure, I got lucky when I beat him on my first try because I barely timed that poison shit correctly but he wasn't that difficult.
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Bitch was spamming lightning attacks at the most inconvenient of times lmao. He was merciless in my playthrough
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
For me it was:

1. Malenia
2. Elden Beast
3. Placidusaxx
4. Maliketh
5. Margit
6. Rykard
7. Mohg
8. Astel
9. Rennala
10. Radahn
11. Morgott
12. Godfrey
13. Fortisaxx
14. Godrick
15.. Regal Ancestor Spirit

If I could put Draconic Tree Sentinel he'd be number 2 on god, **** this dude.
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Oh if we want to include non-Remembrance bosses, lemme copy paste my previous list and change it:

Godskin Duo. Whoever made this boss should be fired and blacklisted from working in a video game company. Leave 'em to the fast food industry. I hate this boss more than any other boss in video game history.

Draconic Tree Sentinel. Ironically, not the one everyone hates outside of Leyndell, I fodderized that one every time somehow. But the absolute ****** in Farum Azula made me want to rip my head in two with my bare hands. Idc that he is a "normal enemy", which is bullshit, I literally respeced at Rennala twice for this enemy. Maliketh felt like a worm compared to it.

Again, not technically a boss, but the stupid Ulcerated Tree Spirit in the Haligtree, near Malenia. I actually didn't even die to it that much, but it made me more enraged than anything in Elden Ring aside from the above 2.

Omegachad Starscourge Radahn.

Radagon/Elden Beast.

Fire Giant.

Margit, The Fell Omen.

Mohg, Lord of Blood (although tbh he'd probably be number 2 if I beat him the right way instead of cheesing).

Maliketh, the Black Blade.

Godrick the Grafted.

Gigachad Godfrey/Daddy Loux.

Rennala.

Malenia (I trivialized Malenia so hard lmao).

Morgott, the Omen King

Rykard.

Pacidusax.

Regal Ancestor Spirit, Astel, and Fortissax I kinda fodderized. They didn't kill me one.
 
RinneItachi said:
Oh if we want to include non-Remembrance bosses, lemme copy paste my previous list and change it:

Godskin Duo. Whoever made this boss should be fired and blacklisted from working in a video game company. Leave 'em to the fast food industry. I hate this boss more than any other boss in video game history.
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There's a reason there's a summon right by the room
RinneItachi said:
Draconic Tree Sentinel. Ironically, not the one everyone hates outside of Leyndell, I fodderized that one every time somehow. But the absolute ****** in Farum Azula made me want to rip my head in two with my bare hands. Idc that he is a "normal enemy", which is bullshit, I literally respeced at Rennala twice for this enemy. Maliketh felt like a worm compared to it.
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Never bothered with that one
RinneItachi said:
Again, not technically a boss, but the stupid Ulcerated Tree Spirit in the Haligtree, near Malenia. I actually didn't even die to it that much, but it made me more enraged than anything in Elden Ring aside from the above 2
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Agony
 
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