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Who's wok?
Also we're mainly waiting for Chariot. he said he's gonna finish the game sometime soon so that he can collect scans and do calcs.
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Elden Ring General Discussion
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Also we're mainly waiting for Chariot. he said he's gonna finish the game sometime soon so that he can collect scans and do calcs.
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They're both Undead. Ashen is Unkindled. They're reliant on the Undead curse. Ashen just comes back for absolutely no reason other than the fire is going out.
I guess you could speculate that the first flame is bringing him back, but without proof, he's coming back through sheer spite.
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Raddahn holding up constellations is like a High 4-C feat I think
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Wokistan. And if Radahn's stars aren't real, every star in the game is to be put into question. The crater that his falling star makes is not star sized unless everyone in the game is planet sized.
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That's facts though
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Talking about their level of regen
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Classic one line response with absolutely no proof to back it up.
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They all have like Mid-Low, but the curse brings them back no matter what. The only reason Ashen doesn't have Mid-Godly is because he dies then comes back. But he has no soul and can come back from death so it's effective Mid-Godly regen in everything but name.
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Granblue Fantasy and Ultraman be like: Okay, bet
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There's a lot of 4-A characters
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I think we gotta commend Raddahn's sickly stick horse being able to carry his fat ass.
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Where is this said
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Tier 0 horse because it can handle Raddahn' fat ass, tier 0+ when not sickly
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He was using gravity manip to lesssn the load on his horse. It's in an item description. It's actually pretty sweet since he was so attached to the horse, he learnt gravity magic specifically to continue riding it.
Discord.
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For rennala's nebulae?
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Again, if Radahn's stars, outside of a pocket dimension, in the real world, are fake, why would Ranni's pocket dimension stars be treated any different?
Also if it wasn't made clear, the Rennala you fight in phase 2 is Ranni's illusion.
Also if it wasn't made clear, the Rennala you fight in phase 2 is Ranni's illusion.
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The stars arent illusions though
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Again, prove it? Rennala's spell was stated to recreate a whole ass moon, and yet the moon we see her make is the same size as her.
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Isn't the moon in the back ground the entire time? I don't think we ever saw either of them side by side.
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It's in the background though?
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So wait @Sir_Ovens you're suggesting every single star in the lands between aren't real in that case even the day and night would be an illusion
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Really, I'm just playing devil's advocate because some of the reasons for the tiers can be explained away as other things.
Also the pocket dimension moon is huge, yes. But the spell she conjures where she turns into a moon and then throws it at you. It's a real spell you can use and it's description reads that she made that spell to recreate a perfect moon. And if we are to believe that that is a real 5-C moon, then we also have to believe that every person in the game is planet sized.
Also the pocket dimension moon is huge, yes. But the spell she conjures where she turns into a moon and then throws it at you. It's a real spell you can use and it's description reads that she made that spell to recreate a perfect moon. And if we are to believe that that is a real 5-C moon, then we also have to believe that every person in the game is planet sized.
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Maybe it's just a regular spell version? I don't know, I'm no special cast so I dont bother to read any descriptions.
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Would explain why some bosses have tiny stars inside them, they ain't tiny, the bosses just huge 
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Rennala's spell (the one we get) is just like a projection of the moon, not the actual moon, it's a recreation but on a like, normal level, it's meant to be a spell used by the people they teach afterall, it's a blue magical moon they can shoot that messes with other magic and hurts, they're not going to try and teach people to make and drop a moon sized moon, considering most people couldn't do that.
As for the idea that her phase two is Rani's illusion, that's contradicted by a few things
Namely the fact that Rani has never once before, or after that fight even displayed a hint of having illusions, so it's an assumption with no base for one. Secondly, we get the remembrance and rune (somehow, the rune thing is weird overall) from Rennala, and finally, Rani explicitly states that it's the Last Queen of Caria, Rennala of the Full Moon's night, and we can see from a few things in the game that Rennala and Rani's nights are in fact, different.
As for the idea that her phase two is Rani's illusion, that's contradicted by a few things
Namely the fact that Rani has never once before, or after that fight even displayed a hint of having illusions, so it's an assumption with no base for one. Secondly, we get the remembrance and rune (somehow, the rune thing is weird overall) from Rennala, and finally, Rani explicitly states that it's the Last Queen of Caria, Rennala of the Full Moon's night, and we can see from a few things in the game that Rennala and Rani's nights are in fact, different.
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What's the deal with Magma Wyrm Makar? Why does he stand upright and start fighting more like a person than the other Magma Wyrm?
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The game is basically about stars. Saying they arent real seems like bullshit.
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I'm fairly certain the stars we see in the post-fight cutscene after killing Radahn are meteors. However, it's a ******* MASSIVE meteor shower, with even just one of those meteors making what could easily be a 7-C to Low 7-B crater, so even at worst Radahn is still gonna be in Tier 6
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Malenia supposedly nuked the entirety of Caelid? Considering the size of Caelid, I feel that could yield mid tier 6 results. Would serve as a decent supporting feat if Tier 4 is accepted
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Also do we have any good LS feats? There are the giants who can toss big rocks I think and Radahn with big swords, but I feel neither would get higher than Class K, nor would they scale to anyone else.
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Its in the background
That wouldn't confirm the nebulae are fake though, since its literally just the night
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Alright, here is the feats that we get so far:
If i missing other feats then let me know
Right now we need to calculating the Meteors and Caelid nuke beside debating the tier 4 feats
Tho for real, i'm not 100% supporting the tier 4 feats until we can confirm it together, but i don't like taking the role as devil advocate lel
- Rennala Realms
- Radahn hold up the stars
- Astel is a malformed stars and has several attacks involving stars and nebulae
- The final boss has the nebulae on his dimension and his second phase form is literally made out from nebris
- Ranni ending where she spawn the the realms and said to keep away the stars and moon from earth
- The Meteors after killing Radahn post-fight cutscene
- Malenia nuked Caelid to ashes
- The Tarnished surivived the lightning
If i missing other feats then let me know
Right now we need to calculating the Meteors and Caelid nuke beside debating the tier 4 feats
Tho for real, i'm not 100% supporting the tier 4 feats until we can confirm it together, but i don't like taking the role as devil advocate lel
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I think ranni the witch does make a night sky full of stars in one of the endings iirc.
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the tarnished survives an attack that previously erased a world at the end
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I think she just invok her outer god who is the god of dark moon
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The final boss has nebulae in its pocket dimension, which goes away after it dies
Ranni's ending has her like, her spawn her moon and night sky and stuff, basically her version of Rennala's earlier night sky thing, complete with the dark moon instead of the full moon, but that's only the visible effects. Talking to her after (at the new grace atop her tower), has her reveal that her goal is to move and keep all the stars and moon far away from the Earth, while also abandoning the soil.
Astel is a malformed star made of many colored star debris, and has several attacks involving stars and nebulae, which his weapons inherit
Although they're smaller, if they were to count for anything
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Thanks, honestly i forgot about the final boss and Astel things
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Sounds spicy
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Proof/source/scan of it?
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Just kidding
