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Beat radhan in 3 tries. Mostly had the npcs jump him and came in for the occasional heavy. Didn’t expect bro to be so rapid though. Homie was straight up eating corpses
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Elden Ring General Discussion
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Twisted_Little_Raven
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Honestly I wish I fought Marika. The true goddess of Elden ring is Aria Justrad (my character) and there should be statues of me after I become Elden lord.
But yea I agree would of been nice
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The Radahn Festival is easily one of the most epic boss fights I've ever played. You're literally using an army of great warriors to grant rest to a demigod.
Also Patches peacing the **** out the instant he sees Radahn is just perfect
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Marika could have been the DLC secret boss fight. With all the time travel shenanigans From has used before, it could have been to here and make us fight Marika at her prime.
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Yeah, it is what happened after getting rot inflicted for years if not decades
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Understandable, but apparently the chick he was fighting did this to him. Kinda messed up she left him like that
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In all fairness, it's a bit more complicated but you'll see. And it's pretty messed up yeah
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Also props to that horse, I honestly have no idea how that thing can move like that with all that weight on its back
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It's actually thanks to Radahn. Radahn has a very close bond with his horse so when he grew too big for the scrawny seed, he refused to abandon it and outright decided to learn gravity spells so he could continue riding it.
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Because Radahn is Based and Leonard is precious.
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YES and Miquella defiling him makes it all the more tragic
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Personally I am in the 'Radhan agreed to the vow willingly' camp.
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I'm more on the opposite camp actually but regardless, it's still messed up
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Based
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Does anyone know where I could bring up feats that could be calced because creating a miniature nebula could get the verse into tier 6 if a call beyond could make bloodborne high 6C. One item does this and two charecters if my memory is correct.
Another feat is flying dragon Agheel burning multiple wandering nobles in addition to some water and rock getting vaporized from it's fire breath. Another note is that the description of the Agheel flame incantation describes Agheel as burning wandering nobles to ash so we know how thorough the fire is in burning things. Overall it's probably tier 8.
Lastly I plan on suggesting calcing the KE of trolls, runebears and golems as they would probably be nice 9A feats.
- Elden beast makes a small nebula
- Astel makes a nebula as well as the weapon from its remembrance
Another feat is flying dragon Agheel burning multiple wandering nobles in addition to some water and rock getting vaporized from it's fire breath. Another note is that the description of the Agheel flame incantation describes Agheel as burning wandering nobles to ash so we know how thorough the fire is in burning things. Overall it's probably tier 8.
Lastly I plan on suggesting calcing the KE of trolls, runebears and golems as they would probably be nice 9A feats.
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ER is well beyond tier 6 already
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Max tier is actually tier 7 at least to tier 4 at best but with this, it could become tier 6 to tier 4
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I just love how Leyndell and Enir-Ilim are so similar yet so different in appearence and themes. Both cities are tied to the divine, are imposing and majestic in their own ways and are key locations for the lore, if not THE most important structures in the LB yet differ in many ways.
Leyndell is a magnificent city, with large buildings with tons of golden elements from roofs to balconies, altars and enormous, majestic statues and gigantic structures mixed with the roots of the Erdtree. The whole city is massive, with tons of hidden locations and passages all over the place, several layers including some that are riddled with corpses, monsters and so on, while on the higher levels the corpse of Gransax serves as a trophy and symbol of power for the GO. And then you have locations like the Queen's Bedchamber and the Elden Throne, all magnificent, as close as possible to the Erdtree. Overall, Leyndell is an imposing and vast structure, a fortified, broken yet beautiful city that exists to represent the prosperity of the Erdtree and the divine, which tragically falls to pieces but remains proud and magnificent, basking in the glory of the Erdtree. A place bathed in gold but imposing and fortified, majestic and very domineering at the same time, just like the Erdtree and Marika herself.
Enir-Ilim meanwhile is majestic and imposing to but in a different way. Aside from broken bridges, it's almost completely intact, with at worst some roofs covered with sand and missing tiles. The color scheme is paler than Leyndell, closer to bronze, with even plants looking not dead but simply not growing anymore. Unlike Leyndell which is a compact city full of hidden passages, small and large streets, in short a proper city, Enir-Ilim always goes upward, growing taller and taller, with spiral, pillar and tower motifs everywhere, including in monuments in altars, almost as if the tower itself was trying to reach the heavens, with pillars buildt downward and upward at the same time, weird statues of mixed bodies encircled by some worm/serpentine-like thing and corpses integrated in the structures and, of course, the Divine Gate, made of tons of bodies, standing at the top and above everything else. The whole place feels like something that shouldn't exist, both sinister and beautiful at the same time, and that clearly wasn't made by human hands and for an almost incomprehensible purpose. The fact it's never night time there also gives off the feeling the location is not really damaged but somehow frozen in time, which isn't helped by the sand you can see dropping from pillars and structures above you, giving it a "sand of time" motif.
Their music also fit the idea. Leyndell's theme is bombastic, imposing and majestic but with a sad tone to, reflecting how the city and really the Golden Order are in ruins yet still stand. An age of prosperity and domination that is on its last legs but still display beauty and power. Enir-Ilim's theme however is more ethereal, with shades of majesty especially in the first notes but much more subded and mysterious. It really conveys the idea of a place that cannot be properly described.
Leyndell is a magnificent city, with large buildings with tons of golden elements from roofs to balconies, altars and enormous, majestic statues and gigantic structures mixed with the roots of the Erdtree. The whole city is massive, with tons of hidden locations and passages all over the place, several layers including some that are riddled with corpses, monsters and so on, while on the higher levels the corpse of Gransax serves as a trophy and symbol of power for the GO. And then you have locations like the Queen's Bedchamber and the Elden Throne, all magnificent, as close as possible to the Erdtree. Overall, Leyndell is an imposing and vast structure, a fortified, broken yet beautiful city that exists to represent the prosperity of the Erdtree and the divine, which tragically falls to pieces but remains proud and magnificent, basking in the glory of the Erdtree. A place bathed in gold but imposing and fortified, majestic and very domineering at the same time, just like the Erdtree and Marika herself.
Enir-Ilim meanwhile is majestic and imposing to but in a different way. Aside from broken bridges, it's almost completely intact, with at worst some roofs covered with sand and missing tiles. The color scheme is paler than Leyndell, closer to bronze, with even plants looking not dead but simply not growing anymore. Unlike Leyndell which is a compact city full of hidden passages, small and large streets, in short a proper city, Enir-Ilim always goes upward, growing taller and taller, with spiral, pillar and tower motifs everywhere, including in monuments in altars, almost as if the tower itself was trying to reach the heavens, with pillars buildt downward and upward at the same time, weird statues of mixed bodies encircled by some worm/serpentine-like thing and corpses integrated in the structures and, of course, the Divine Gate, made of tons of bodies, standing at the top and above everything else. The whole place feels like something that shouldn't exist, both sinister and beautiful at the same time, and that clearly wasn't made by human hands and for an almost incomprehensible purpose. The fact it's never night time there also gives off the feeling the location is not really damaged but somehow frozen in time, which isn't helped by the sand you can see dropping from pillars and structures above you, giving it a "sand of time" motif.
Their music also fit the idea. Leyndell's theme is bombastic, imposing and majestic but with a sad tone to, reflecting how the city and really the Golden Order are in ruins yet still stand. An age of prosperity and domination that is on its last legs but still display beauty and power. Enir-Ilim's theme however is more ethereal, with shades of majesty especially in the first notes but much more subded and mysterious. It really conveys the idea of a place that cannot be properly described.
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So I read the description of radhans armor and it says godfrey was the first Elden lord. Which raises several questions. One of which is how exactly did he become the Elden lord? Because the two fingers told me to go clap marika. And I’m pretty sure Godfrey is a demigod soooo…..
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Godfrey from what I know is just a really strong warrior. I don't think he's an actual demigod I think it's just by default of marrying Marika
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Been curious who is stronger between Marika and Godfrey? Even if someone says Godfrey, how could he get banished then? Based on what they imply seems like there was nothing he could do about it. But apparently Marika needed a champion to conquer all her foes which would imply Godfrey superiority. I know they were both fire giant killers. At very least they seem comparable at a glance. And you essentially fight
Maybe one just has more hax other more raw strength?
one after the other in form of radogan
Maybe one just has more hax other more raw strength?
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Honestly, I kinda wish the Radahn fight could be like a massive multiplayer. Like jumping Radahn with a couple of your friends instead of NPCs would be so fun.
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Oh, I thought he was one of her kids cuz of his hair
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Lol nah
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Feeling pretty awesome right now
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Sorry about the interruption this will be the last time I ask but do any of you know of any calc groups I could talk to for these feats. If not how would I go about doing these calculations myself and getting them evaluated. Thank you for the time.
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Godfrey isn’t one of the demigods as those are only children of Marika. Godfrey was a warrior before Marika’s rule, and she took him as his consort to be the first Elden Lord
I’d say Marika isn’t as powerful physically, but if Miquella is anything to go off, then it’s more likely that Marika has something that makes her powerful beyond strength. She was able to remove the tune of death from the Elden Ring, basically showing us that she has supreme control over the worlds order.
Chritin
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First off, the Bloodborne feat has a LOT of problems with it. Not that it’s false, but in the fact we still can’t agree on how good it is. It could be anywhere from tier 6 to 4 depending on your interpretation, and I’m not even sure about my feelings on it. Either way, that’s a level of uncertainty I don’t think Elden Ring needs when we already have constant confusion over the two top tier feats in the verse. Plus, ER most likely already has a tier 6 feat in the form of the Frenzied Flame ending.
Then, there’s the issue of how we’d calc it. Assuming you want to use a method akin to what we have for bloodborne, then it would only work if the stars Astel and the Elden Beast made were exploding stars. Granted, they both have nebula based attacks involving exploding stars (courtesy of the Wing of Astel and Bastard Stars ash of war description, although they explode due to magic specifically), but that means we would be unable to calculate just them creating a small nebula of stars.
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Nah the true they/them deity of Elden Ring is my Beastman Drake Hunter build named Zanzibart
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Considering the Tier 6 feat is directly based on what afaik is a largely unchallenged calc (FMA Father's nuclear fusion mini-sun) I feel that Tier 6 is a rather solid rating for both Bloodborne and Elden Ring's feats regarding miniature stars
Also Frenzied Flame ending being Tier 6 is different by several orders of magnitude from Astel being Tier 6 because Lord Tarnished vastly upscales from Rot-afflicted Radahn, who held presumably dozens of Astels in stasis above the earth (while it is cut content, his reentry animation being originally tied to an Astel boss intro lends credence to this notion, in addition to such extraterrestrial lifeforms being referred to as stars)
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You’ll all wrong. Obviously the true deity is Soldier of Godrick.
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Zanzibart scales 1:1 because they kissed Soldier of Godrick on the mouthYou’ll all wrong. Obviously the true deity is Soldier of Godrick.
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Like I said, I don’t think it isn’t. I just think that the Bloodborne calc causes enough trouble as is and may or may not get changed soon-ish (depending on how that one guys calc turned out). So I’d honestly at least wait to apply everything we did for it to Elden Ring.
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Bloodborne largely causes contention because WeeklyBattles and ChaosTheory123 were some of its main stans so people assume it's wanked to high hell by default lol
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I dont know how to feel about the 'a call beyond' calc and stuff.
I actually think its more valid in ER because of the Micrcosm/Macrocosm lore which implies the stars you're creating are a microcosm of the stars in space, meaning they are implied to be real somewhat.
I actually think its more valid in ER because of the Micrcosm/Macrocosm lore which implies the stars you're creating are a microcosm of the stars in space, meaning they are implied to be real somewhat.
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Well elden ring may not need the uncertainty but to be honest I doubt said uncertainty regarding those two feats will be cleared up so why not add one to the pile. Although it's still probably worth it to wait if the bloodborne one gets changed.
As for the frenzy ending we're gonna need a calc for that.
Well they do detonate to deal damage and are portrayed as stars so I don't know how relevant them being magically created is. Also why wouldn't we be able to calculate just them creating a small nebula? Is it the volume of stars that's present or something else?
Anyways don't mind me I'm going to fetch some scans quick fast.
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Astel isn't Tier 6, and Radahn holding multiple Astels is calced to only be 7-A.
Also the Frenzied Flame Tarnished is High 6-A but it doesn't matter considering they scale to no one.
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Something, something Midra
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1. That causes a lot of circular scaling problems
2. I'm pretty sure Midra was too weak to be considered an Elden Lord iirc, so it's hard to say he could even pull off a similar feat.
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Not really, Midra only fights the end game tarnished in his ascended Lord of Frenzy Flame form.
Midra was too weak to be considered an Elden Lord at the time Nanaya came to him.
Though his process of enduring immense suffering he was able to ascend to a full Lord of Frenzy Flame.
