The High 6-A feat only happens after you defeat the Elden Beast. So Midra does not scale that Tarnished in any way.
Is there anything that states that? If he was truly on that level, that he would've just burned the entire world by then as that would be the Frenzied Flame's goal.
The High 6-A feat happens because you become the Lord of Frenzy Flame not because you do anything with the ER or the EB, which is explicitly stated to be what Midra turns into once he removes the barbed sword from himself (it's literally his boss name and his remembrance name)
Yes its in his remembrance's name. I dont see any reason he wouldnt scale to us as the Lord of Frenzy Flame if he is also one during his boss fight.
True. Ya know though, for as much shit weekly caused, he maintained Bloodborne than any other souls game. I respect him for that at least.
I’d argue the opposite actually, since in Bloodborne it’s more obvious that stars are actually stars. There’s no contention on if they’re meteors or not like in ER
1. Yeah it isn’t the worst idea. I think I’m just salty about doing it cause I’m tired of the whole “are these ACTUALLY stars” discourse.
This 'contention' is stupid. Meteors are Meteors, Stars are Stars. They are both explicitly different and both exist independently. None of Ymir's dialogue makes any sense if the stars he is talking about are just Meteors.
I reccomend looking at the previous threads about this stuff with Radahn’s feat, but basically it’s likely that not all stars in Elden Ring are stars. While there are still actual stars in Elden Ring, there are also sources that reference stars when they are actually talking about meteors. It’s a bit confusing tbh.
Honestly Weekly did well to maintain both Dark Souls and Bloodborne, so even despite their conduct issues, frequent bias, and smattering of faulty calcs, I still have some amount of respect for them
I have read all of the threads regarding this and I have participated in all of them arguing against it.
I mean tbf that shit's kinda the case for astrology and astronomy predating the advent of high-powered telescopes that could differentiate between stars and other astral bodies, which Elden Ring is based upon (with the added stipulation that the developers and lorewriters have the benefit of hindsight and can distinguish between them however vaguely even whilst calling non-stellar astral bodies "stars")
I think it’s implied that Midra is on the level of being a lord of frenzied flame, but he did not claim the title for some external reason. Because we do not know why he was considered too weak (whether he fought someone more powerful that stopped him, or if he was mentally weak and unwilling to become the lord, etc.) we can’t say for sure it was specifically because of his actual physical power.
I Lowkey hate that calc I did lol. Once I get the actual Lord of Frenzied Flame ending calc done I’ll probably remove it and just have the calc of the Flame of Ruin consuming the tree up as a mid to late game feat for the tarnished.
Okay his bloodborne stuff was okay, but his dark souls scaling was ******* ass. He downplayed so many characters claiming that it was intended that the Ashen one would go to Archdragon peak and the ringed city before fighting abyss watchers, or that the fact that you could downplayed those characters.
Listen man you’re preaching to the choir lol. It’s mostly Bambu and a few others who have contentions (although I don’t entirely disagree with them, I just lean more towards the other side).
Even decades is a bit of a lowball. Most of the lives across The Lands Between have implicitly far exceeded their natural span, compounding with constant warfare as the reason that many have become rabid madmen whose first and only response to your presence is violence (plus most of them are mute aside from war cries)
No argument there.
FF should be Low 2-C EE over time for Tarnished/Frenzied Flame lords. Not that it matters its over time if its Low 2-C
Seconded on all points, his placement in the Tarnished's to-do list, the amount of time he's been steadily losing his mind from constant agony, and the fact that he's got the fuqn black hole head all point to him being powerful enough atp to be a bona fide Lord of Frenzied Flame
LITERALLY. Honestly Dark Souls desperately needs help in general. In terms of Fromsoft verses, it’s pages are only slightly better than Demon’s Souls just because they aren’t ancient as hell lol.
Honestly I really like this idea. Especially since it’s all but confirmed with the DLC that the splitting of the One Great is a Big Bang type event.
I'd argue it's more likely a Tier 3 over time, with an argument to be made for Uni+, possibly Multi+
Haha it’s all good. I tend to ramble.
It isn't overtime, we see happen pretty instantly. Plus why would it be the universe? That doesn't make any sense with what we're shown in the game.
Okay tier 3 might be a more conservative pick, and personally I’d rather go with Uni+, but how the hell would it be Multi+
Dear god please. I’d help out more, but DeS and DS2 are the final two souls games I have to play
The Frenzied Flame's whole deal is burning Creation with a capital C down into a primordial soup. There's a whole world outside The Lands Between and a cosmos beyond, wouldn't make much sense to leave all that and all the life within it untouched
FromSoft tends to justify multi-player with multiverses (such as how the fading of the First Flame ****** up time and space, leading to the many worlds of which the players and summonable NPCs occupy, and implicitly explains the lack of day/night cycle and radically different times of day/night in areas that are a 10 minute walk from each other). You could make such a claim on similar grounds given how the Elden Ring is effectively the conceptual blueprint of the Elden Ring verse
I mean it explicitly doesn't? We burn the Erdtree with the flame and the world is fine but burning slowly over time with the implication that eventually the entire universe/timeline would boil down to nothing.
A lot of the Multiversal stuff in Dark Souls is actually a misinterpretation of Solaire’s dialogue in DS1. Smough town made a good video on the flow of time in the DS universe, but to make a long story short, the idea of us finding players from different worlds in the game is actually a byproduct of time becoming stagnant from the first flame fading. Instead of worlds colliding together, it’s more like time itself is layered on top of each other, and warriors from different eras are appearing near each other.
I disagree on it being a "misinterpretation", more a differing interpretation
Where's the primordial soup thing from? Secondly, most of the events of the game within the lands between, there's not much to go off to say the Frenzied Flame would affect that much outside of the planet.
We see everything getting burned down outside of the erdtree during the ending cutscene. Nothing about it is suggesting space time, let alone the cosmos is getting affected.
"Burn the Erdtree to the ground, and incinerate all that divides and distinguishes.
Hyettas dialogue?
Yeh sure except it is clearly happening over time.
