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Edelweiss vs Grimm-Grimm. Battle for 4th 7-B.
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He would affect himself. The illusion boyo would still fear his own death (caused by Gii).
Anyone she damages has full control under (causality hax).
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She doesn't need to sense him. He does.
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His fate gets passively manipulated. Way before she gets passived by him.
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Nope, that can happen from fate materialization. Which is passive.
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Only in soul.
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NEP 1 i don't know, for NEP 2 yes
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Yeah considering the arguments for Edelweiss boil down to "she'll passive him before he passives her because I think his passives need sight" and "she'll materialize the fate of him losing to someone else, despite being passived by the nonexistent abstract entity and not being able to even notice him"
I'm gonna have to vote Grimm=Grimm as well here
I'm gonna have to vote Grimm=Grimm as well here
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I mean, its a stomp
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Ugh...paul...you do know that quite literally no argument or proof has been made for "he'll hax her from 4km away". He has no such range with his "presence".
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He has kilometers of range on his profile and has affected the entire city of Iganock more than once with his stuff
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Grimm is the illusion of everyone within the city of Inganock, along with their dreams, this is why everyone in Inganock see him, a clown, at the edge of their vision and why they also see him in their dreams.
He is also an equation itself, the phenomenon equation which can warp physics.
As for his fear hax, Porshion was scared just being in his presence, and Porshion wasn't scared in Stone Golem's presence. Stone Golem with its presence and voice caused everyone in the lower levels of Inganock to be scared, and even affected the higher level Gii was at, hence why Gii took a train basically down to the lower levels to fight it.
The lower level is at minimum like multiple residential areas, but might be an argument it's like a city itself really, so is the upper level.
Anyway Grimm's fear hax>Stone Golem
He is also an equation itself, the phenomenon equation which can warp physics.
As for his fear hax, Porshion was scared just being in his presence, and Porshion wasn't scared in Stone Golem's presence. Stone Golem with its presence and voice caused everyone in the lower levels of Inganock to be scared, and even affected the higher level Gii was at, hence why Gii took a train basically down to the lower levels to fight it.
The lower level is at minimum like multiple residential areas, but might be an argument it's like a city itself really, so is the upper level.
Anyway Grimm's fear hax>Stone Golem
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we're talking about the range pegasus.
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As for Grimm dying cause he is the antagonist, he really didn't. Grimm by its very nature desires the feelings of others, it's why it was there at the end of the golden staircase watching everything in Inganock.
There is some sort of process going on where by ppl like Gii and Kerkan get closer and closer to Grimm, hence why everytime Gii defeats a Critter, the Grand Prince who is still conducting his experiment even after death, is all happy about the "sacrifice" moving up the stairs, and thus moves up the stairs himself.
Kerkan got to Grimm first by killing someone else who had something he needed to ascend, and thus he meet Grimm who granted his wish of destroying the city, however basically Gii is ultimately who won between him and Kerkan and as a result Grimm just left and undid all the Kikai's, instead being possibilities who were never born, into 10 year old kids which is what they would have been had they been born.
There are also interpretations of the golden staircase being a spiritual journey or something like that, anyway point is, it's not as simply as Grimm being defeated.
There is some sort of process going on where by ppl like Gii and Kerkan get closer and closer to Grimm, hence why everytime Gii defeats a Critter, the Grand Prince who is still conducting his experiment even after death, is all happy about the "sacrifice" moving up the stairs, and thus moves up the stairs himself.
Kerkan got to Grimm first by killing someone else who had something he needed to ascend, and thus he meet Grimm who granted his wish of destroying the city, however basically Gii is ultimately who won between him and Kerkan and as a result Grimm just left and undid all the Kikai's, instead being possibilities who were never born, into 10 year old kids which is what they would have been had they been born.
There are also interpretations of the golden staircase being a spiritual journey or something like that, anyway point is, it's not as simply as Grimm being defeated.
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Pegasus did bring up range there
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Fair, stomp then.
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Huh, interesting to see Grimm-Grimm getting matches again.
@Celestial_Pegasus Funnily enough in its way, GG's fear hax scales high up in Inganock since it made Porshion shit himself to not want to fight it initially, and that was an Evolved version who no doubt should be stronger than its initial self that tanked/resisted Stone Golem's fear hax, which in turn is much stronger than Wendigo's given its range thing you mentioned but also the fact it made even humans with Crack Engines and Monsters with mind management abilities to run away in fear of it.
It's likely even more powerful since even the Upper Tier Soldiers, whose bodies are literally outfitted with Crack Engines and have Anti-Critter Engines made to fend off Critter Voice, literally pass out during Gii's battle with Stone Golem. And Porshion still tanked that at his initial form before its evolution. Yet GG made it scared shitless to the point of not wanting to come out and encounter towards the end of the VN.
@Celestial_Pegasus Funnily enough in its way, GG's fear hax scales high up in Inganock since it made Porshion shit himself to not want to fight it initially, and that was an Evolved version who no doubt should be stronger than its initial self that tanked/resisted Stone Golem's fear hax, which in turn is much stronger than Wendigo's given its range thing you mentioned but also the fact it made even humans with Crack Engines and Monsters with mind management abilities to run away in fear of it.
It's likely even more powerful since even the Upper Tier Soldiers, whose bodies are literally outfitted with Crack Engines and have Anti-Critter Engines made to fend off Critter Voice, literally pass out during Gii's battle with Stone Golem. And Porshion still tanked that at his initial form before its evolution. Yet GG made it scared shitless to the point of not wanting to come out and encounter towards the end of the VN.
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