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Alright thenCombat speed is characterized as like small movements and dodges, nothing that is long distance. Lityerses can blitz demigods from like ten meters away, which is movement speed
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Alright thenCombat speed is characterized as like small movements and dodges, nothing that is long distance. Lityerses can blitz demigods from like ten meters away, which is movement speed
Riptide is 5 ft since when? Pretty sure it’s described to be “3ft of shimmering bronze” or smth like that
Ah yeah I screwed up the length, it said 5 pounds and I accidentally put thatRiptide is 5 ft since when? Pretty sure it’s described to be “3ft of shimmering bronze” or smth like that
According to google, 5’10 was the most common age that popped up for Percy. Probably gotta check it againAlso do we know Percy’s height at 14? When he is 16 he is 6ft and going by this link, there is an almost 4” difference between the two ages for the average guy who is shorter than Percy. Slapping on 5’10” doesn’t really work.
Yeah according to Percy Jackson’s UK site, 13 year old Percy is described as “5’10 and a bit slim”. He would be slightly taller since he was 14 when he did the feat, but not too much of a differenceAccording to google, 5’10 was the most common age that popped up for Percy. Probably gotta check it again
Some people grow faster in earlier years before settling for their maximum height. That said, Percy shouldn't be that much shorter than what he is nowAlso do we know Percy’s height at 14? When he is 16 he is 6ft and going by this link, there is an almost 4” difference between the two ages for the average guy who is shorter than Percy. Slapping on 5’10” doesn’t really work. 5’8” looks would be more accurate.
I'm pretty sure Percy was stated to 6' in Heroes of Olympus with Jason being 6'1 or something5’10” doesn’t really work though since the Demigod Files lists Annabeth as about 5’10” (freaking giant) at 13 and she is noted to be taller than Percy by a few inches until Labyrinth where Percy is almost as tall as her or smth. Assuming Annabeth doesn’t grow at all since she is < MoA Percy (he could kiss the top of her head) < MoA Jason = 6’ range, Percy kinda has to be around 5’8” max in TTC.
Yeah, I think it was the Piper chapter at Topeka where they fight and she was comparing them and called Percy that and Jason and inch taller. Might need to go check my book rq.I'm pretty sure Percy was stated to 6' in Heroes of Olympus with Jason being 6'1 or something
Kinda consistent considering Percy became High Hypersonic+ in Heroes of OlympusUpdated the blog, result didn’t really change
Still High Hypersonic Titan’s Curse Percy
Technically the distance is wrong in the lightning catching calc, the calc uses the full distance of the canyon (21 meters) but Jason was actually in close quarter combat range with the spirit (so more like 5 meters)Kinda consistent considering Percy became High Hypersonic+ in Heroes of Olympus
Huh, so maybe it should be recalced. Though I think what was calced was the lightning strike when they fought Otis and EphialetesTechnically the distance is wrong in the lightning catching calc, the calc uses the full distance of the canyon (21 meters) but Jason was actually in close quarter combat range with the spirit (so more like 5 meters)
The result would actually be Massively Hypersonic
The lightning strike calc for Ephialtes was only Supersonic+, a considerable amount lowerHuh, so maybe it should be recalced. Though I think what was calced was the lightning strike when they fought Otis and Ephialetes
For 6-C demigods, there's nothing to really support it at this point. The sky lifting feat is largely agreed to not be usable as a strength feat and thus shouldn't apply for AP or durability either. Jason's storm calc is inflated. It uses a 20km based on a misunderstanding on the calcer's part. It seems like it was never even actually accepted so idk how it's even on the pages. Unless there are other feats in this range then Demigods need a downgrade here.Not atm, we all kinda agree that Class E should be deleted but the 6-C stuff is still being debated, as well as the constellation stuff for gods
On the subject of speed, I think it might be useful to look at magicians from Kane Chronicles. Percy would upscale pretty easily from the lightning-dodging feats shown there. Like Carter deflecting lightning here. Percy scaling above Carter is already something established in the profiles so getting this one calced could be useful.And I need an evaluation for my Percy calc
There’s a reason for it to not be an LS feat; it was stated to be a matter of willpower. However, it inherently should qualify for AP considering Atlas’ direct statement on how the sky would flatten the mountain and everything within a hundred leaguesFor 6-C demigods, there's nothing to really support it at this point. The sky lifting feat is largely agreed to not be usable as a strength feat and thus shouldn't apply for AP or durability either.
Is the lightning real? It’s been a while since I read the books so I’m not too familiar with the magic in this seriesOn the subject of speed, I think it might be useful to look at magicians from Kane Chronicles. Percy would upscale pretty easily from the lightning-dodging feats shown there. Like Carter deflecting lightning here. Percy scaling above Carter is already something established in the profiles so getting this one calced could be useful.
It doesn't qualify for AP because they aren't using strength to perform the feat. Why would we give Percy 6-C AP for something that had nothing to do with his AP? The sky falling has a certain amount of force behind it sure, but that force isn't countered by anything physical on Percy's part.There’s a reason for it to not be an LS feat; it was stated to be a matter of willpower. However, it inherently should qualify for AP considering Atlas’ direct statement on how the sky would flatten the mountain and everything within a hundred leagues
Also Leo can clash with Khione and overpower her, who has her own 6-C calc.
It is. Egyptian mages don't really create objects or elements, but rather invoke concepts and summon representations from Ma'at, which is the origin of all things in creation. Trust me, once we get through stat revisions I will be doing massive revisions for the abilities of both the Greeks and the Egyptians (I've done some scaling of my own on other sites, I just need to transfer all that info here in a format that works with this site. Some of these pages could easily be twice the length.)Is the lightning real? It’s been a while since I read the books so I’m not too familiar with the magic in this series
If somebody writes a list of all the knowledgeable members who have helped out here previously, I can call for them afterwards.So have you all reached any conclusions/agreements here?
So Piper gets 7-B for defeating Khione? Seems rather consistent with Percy's St. Helens feat and Leo matching her icy powers with his fire, considering all 7 either scale or downscale from PercyHere's the Khione feat. Definitely notable that this seems to be a lowball since it's just temperature change. So a recalc could get this higher when we factor in cloud formation.
I'm not sure who it'll scale to. It killed Leo and was said to be able to kill any demigod due to the Imperial Gold in it, which is why Leo told Jason to get him and Piper awayTrying to calc Leo’s supernova, and I’m finding it at anywhere from 7-B+ to High 7-A
Well it was the combined effort of Leo‘s flames and the artillery. So if you divide it by 2 it would give Leo 7-A+ AP with fireI'm not sure who it'll scale to. It killed Leo and was said to be able to kill any demigod due to the Imperial Gold in it, which is why Leo told Jason to get him and Piper away
The resulting explosion still killed Leo though. He basically set the fire to light the explosion, which killed himWell it was the combined effort of Leo‘s flames and the artillery. So if you divide it by 2 it would give Leo 7-A+ AP with fire
He never said it SCALED to anything but Leo's fireThe resulting explosion still killed Leo though. He basically set the fire to light the explosion, which killed him
Yeah, though it's kinda inconsistent with the lore as the Big 3 are repeatedly stated to be the strongest demigods (and especially Percy and Jason), yet the blast is far above any of themHe never said it SCALED to anything but Leo's fire
Pretty sure there was a statement about Leo actually having the most powerful magicYeah, though it's kinda inconsistent with the lore as the Big 3 are repeatedly stated to be the strongest demigods (and especially Percy and Jason), yet the blast is far above any of them
I would like to see the scan. Also, there's this scan where Nico confirms Percy is the most powerful demigod he metPretty sure there was a statement about Leo actually having the most powerful magic
Don’t remember the scan but I saw a few people talk about it on earlier threadsI would like to see the scan. Also, there's this scan where Nico confirms Percy is the most powerful demigod he met
Which book is this from? I need to reread the featOn the subject of speed, I think it might be useful to look at magicians from Kane Chronicles. Percy would upscale pretty easily from the lightning-dodging feats shown there. Like Carter deflecting lightning here. Percy scaling above Carter is already something established in the profiles so getting this one calced could be useful.
I'm hesitant to scale physicals to outright magical abilities in that way. I don't think Leo is physically as strong as the energy in his fire attacks for example, and the same is likely true for Khione and her ice. Maybe someone like Percy can get around that since there's usually less of a disparity between what he can do and tank compared to his powers. And Piper really shouldn't be on the level of some of the others at all, when she isn't physically impressive compared to the average demigod.So Piper gets 7-B for defeating Khione? Seems rather consistent with Percy's St. Helens feat and Leo matching her icy powers with his fire, considering all 7 either scale or downscale from Percy
That said, salty water has a lower freezing point than non-salty water (about −1.8°C, or 28.9°F for the Americans here), so Khione's freeze should be with that temperature in mind
Khione is a goddess so her magic would scale to her physicals to my knowledge. Piper can clash with Khione and even stab her, so she would scale to her duraI'm hesitant to scale physicals to outright magical abilities in that way.
Serpent's shadow. The feat takes place in the Hall of Ages, however, and I'm not sure about the size of it. I can look deeper into it later. Here's some irl measurements for a crook and flail.Which book is this from? I need to reread the feat
I have an idea on how to calc it but I need a few bits of info, such as how long is Carter’s staff and how wide is the room