Well firstly, the stars they make aren't real stars, they're objects in the sky that coexist along with the real stars, similarly to how the Sun Chariot is not star level.Those aren’t anti feats in the slightestUntil you can solidly prove that the star creation is solely hax based then the god tiers yielding High 6-A feats doesn’t automatically remove the High 4-C rating. That’s kinda how scaling works.
I would put possibly, because it's unlikely.
Headcanon. While the sun charoit part is true, you have no proof for the constellations being fake, especially since science know these stars very well.
Burden of proof fallacy
What the hell
False equivalency; the “ Sun chariot” is just a perception of the sun but there’s no evidence that the same applies to the constellations
Exactly, those stars existed before they were "made", which proves my point, and the fact that they are objects and stars meens that they probably are only responsible for the objects
No. They didn't exist before then. Artemis made them, much like how the gods made the other constellations.
Unless you can prove that, this is an unsupported claim. These stars literally weren't a thing before she made them
Well the constalation Orion has a 1 billion year old star, so that would mean that humans are over 1 billion years old, which goes completely against science itself.
That's just mean that in this universe, whoever made the Orion constellation made the star look like they were 1 billion years old. It is possible since it's just tweaking the hydrogen/helium ratio in the star from the start
I hate to use your own logic against you, but that's headcanon.
Zues got bodied by a 6A character physically, and his highest real feat is also 6A. Those are some serious anti-feats.
Maybe, but the burden of proof is one you first because you're the one claiming the stars aren't real somehow. Unless you can provide a proof, you'll never convince me to agree
Just because he did 6-A feats doesn't mean that is the extent of his powers. Lower feats don't immediately contradict higher feats unless we have a reason to believe so (and Typhon's feats seem to be very casual so it doesn't look like that's its full power at all) Proof is on you to show that this was the full extent of his power, as you're the one who tries to pass a downgrade, not the other way around
Why should their speed be downgraded? Ares was toying with Percy, and when Percy actually stabbed him, he tried to kill him, but was prevented from doing so by Kronos. He definitely doesn't scale to Percy, who at the time was just 12 and not nearly as strong as he is today
I was saying their reaction has to be downgraded from relativistic because even if he was toying with him, prime Percy scales to mach 81, and assuming the bare minimum relativistic speeds, it wouldn't be possible for Percy to come close to those speeds unless he was amped thousands of times. Toying or not, you don't get hit by something that much slower than you, so I was suggesting that the gods get downgraded to Massively Hypersonic+ like the Herme's feat.
Yes, the burden of proof is one me, but when your only counter to my argument is head canon, that is a problem and still makes your argument invalid.
(I know I did these flip flopped in order lmao)
No, Zeus got bodied by a 4-B character who performed a 6-A feat. The highest feat HE’S performed is 6-A, however he scales far above gods who can create REAL stars. Your argument would only apply if the specific 6-A attack that Typhon did was capable of extremely harming Zeus
You started the entire argument with a headcanon? Regardless of how invalid his argument is your entire basis for removing High 4-C is a headcanon (which you have yet to provide evidence for)
Ever heard of PIS? Things like that happens in the story a lot. And besides, Ares was definitely not expecting Percy to stab him with his sword in their fight. Also, Ares is a very arrogant god, so it makes a lot of sense for Percy to stab him when Ares not expecting it, especially from someone he toyed with and looked down upon the entire time. Hell Ares wasn't even serious until he got stabbed
It still doesn't help you. You're the one who need to prove your claims, not me
Still doesn't mean that was his full power. Typhon was not struggling to do any of his feats at all. Hell, he was not struggling fighting off the enitre olympian pantheon, with only Zeus' master bolt even managing to momentarily stun him. So yeah, we have no proof he went full power either as he never struggled with doing any of his feats
I’m not sure why he’s even discussing the potential existence of anti feats for the speed, the key issue is that the gods don’t have any listed reason on any of their profiles to be relativistic. They all just have the same “can fight other gods” justification, without anything actually explaining why this would be relativistic.
Yeah, so I think MHS+ travel speed and SOL everything else is the most optimal choice.
I just posted a calc that would scale to the gods, here it is.
Yeah sure, but besides the Hermes feat, the gods are featless in terms of speed, so the relativistic rating was circular reasoing. There was no evidence of them being relativistic.
Yes here's what I'm trying to say though for AP.
My issue is this kind of turns into headcanon. It's never explicity stated he wasn't trying, or even implied as such, what we do know is he hit at the moon while enraged, left massive (6A craters) and beat Zues in a physical fight.
POG!
We have no clue how fast that teleport is, or if they're actively/passively blocking it. I wonder how long it took them to travel there on foot...
Is there any scans? I’m trying to remember an instance where this happened
He was able to block bullets he couldn't see, so he has basic combat precog. Also, isn't there a graphic novel of Percy Jackson we could use to estimate the distance between Percy and Hyperion?
If he does have precog, I don’t know if it would apply to this scene since it wasn’t stated. We wouldn’t need to estimate the distance either, because the book specifies 20 feet away
That's convinient. Let me take a look at Percy's profile...
I took a look at the scan and it’d be more so Enhanced Senses, because Percy didn’t see it before it happened; he “felt its path”, like a water current (as described)
Then this feat should be legit! Let's go! If accepted, I'll edit the CRT accordingly.
pretty sure he talk about demigod natural battle instinct
That isn't precognition. It would be instinctive reactions
yeah, that what i mean though
Yeah he would have that, but he just was wrong how to call that power
It's basically a natural instinct that makes him act without him realizing that. I would say that is probably limited though
