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From what I remember, the star level feat got debunked and even then they’re not scaling to Artemis’s moon level feat. I wasn’t able to respond since like the second page as I’m not nearly as active as I used to be.
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Yeah, we've debunked all god feats over High 6BFrom what I remember, the star level feat got debunked and even then they’re not scaling to Artemis’s moon level feat. I wasn’t able to respond since like the second page as I’m not nearly as active as I used to be.
I believe Percy’s statement was rejected because it was part of a rumor about Zeus.Percy’s wording doesn’t come off as a hyperbole at all. “Watch out for a supernova in your local quadrant“ isn’t something like “she hit with the force of a supernova” or smth like that.
Also I thought we went over that. The science and mythology are one in the same. At the very least they’re equal to each other, as it would make zero sense for Ra’s boat to be inferior to natural science when they canonically do the same job.
That seems like a good idea, but let's wait for the current argument to end first.Also should we edit the other pages
I've noticed Zeus got the edits but Hades for instance hasn't been updated
Percy doesn’t joke in that book though. He says in the beginning that he’s making it as a guide. For information. It would make zero sense in context for him to say something to get confused over."Watch out for a supernova in your local quadrant" sounds very much like a joke, she's going mad and destroying things.
Also, iirc, doesn't he say it's the quadrant around Jupiter, since that's where the rumours says Zeus goes to have his affairs? A supernova inside the solar system isn't something you so casually mention.
This seems to make sense to me.It's nothing to get confused over, Hera is jealous and blows up in anger ocasionally, Zeus is rumoured to have affairs in Jupiter, so he says she blows up near it. Wether she really does it or he's just being humorous to exemplify her jealousy, we don't know, but it can't be a real supernova, since that'd wreck the solar system, so it's at best a large burts of energy, like Zeus with Semele or Jason talking about Hera in the Lost Hero, both compared to supernovas but obviously not showing the power on that level.
He's literally never said that Hera nuked our sun.It's nothing to get confused over, Hera is jealous and blows up in anger ocasionally, Zeus is rumoured to have affairs in Jupiter, so he says she blows up near it. Wether she really does it or he's just being humorous to exemplify her jealousy, we don't know, but it can't be a real supernova, since that'd wreck the solar system, so it's at best a large burts of energy, like Zeus with Semele or Jason talking about Hera in the Lost Hero, both compared to supernovas but obviously not showing the power on that level.
I don't see how that conclusion makes sense. They both exist simultaneously and are related, that doesn't mean that Apollo's chariot is 4-C as can be inferred very clearly by the fact that it doesn't wipe out the planet when Talia crashes it.Also I thought we went over that. The science and mythology are one in the same. At the very least they’re equal to each other, as it would make zero sense for Ra’s boat to be inferior to natural science when they canonically do the same job.
Pretty much this.I don't see how that conclusion makes sense. They both exist simultaneously and are related, that doesn't mean that Apollo's chariot is 4-C as can be inferred very clearly by the fact that it doesn't wipe out the planet when Talia crashes it.
That's not what he said though. He said she causes one whenever she finds him cheating. Jupiter isn't even part of a quadrant.He said she went supernova in Jupiter's quadrant, from what I recall of the full quote. A supernova near Jupiter would obviously cause massive damage to the solar system as a whole, I don't know if it'd destroy the sun, but I'm quite sure life on Earth wouldn't survive, at least.
"In that quadrant of the sky", meaning either around where Jupiter is, or somewhere close enough to be seen in the same part of the sky by someone looking from Earth, which wouldn't make sense as a supernova unless she decides to run a few lightyears away first.FYI: Rumor has it that Zeus and Callisto secretly hang out when he’s in his Roman form. He hides in the planet Jupiter—or maybe he becomes the planet Jupiter—and she revolves around him in the nearby moon named after her. Watch for a supernova in that quadrant of the sky when Hera discovers their trysts.
That quadrant of the sky is massive. Like literal lightyears, because it includes other stars. Like, pretty sure Big Dipper is in that quadrant of the skyNevermind, found one online:
"In that quadrant of the sky", meaning either around where Jupiter is, or somewhere close enough to be seen in the same part of the sky by someone looking from Earth, which wouldn't make sense as a supernova unless she decides to run a few lightyears away first.
Yeah, I misunderstood your comment.Jupiter is not even a light year away. The sky Jupiter is part of though, varies.
The entire passage is a rumor. It's unreliable at best, and all of the other mentions of people going "supernova" have no signs of appropriate damage, and 6C characters can stand around the "Supernova", as long as they don't look at it.He literally said watch in the skies for it, implying he saw it before. The only thing he wasn’t sure of is how Zeus got to have sex with a constellation.
Also she doesn’t need to fly away to cause one. That’s just range.
Why would she want to harm anyone? She’s a goddess, not a monster.So, she sees her husband cheating on her then creates a supernova so far away it cannot harm anyone. Seems a bit counterproductive.
If anything that supports my point, because he wouldn’t have said anything if he didn’t further clarification.It's not like Percy would be able to tell it's a supernova just from seeing it.
He gets confused because “Zeus became Jupiter” can mean two things in the PJO verse.And while myths being true is the base of the setting, things are unknown all the time, the characters don't know everything, like Percy not knowing if Zeus is literally Jupiter or just hangs around in it.
Putting my opinion of VSBW’s definitions of outliers aside, the gods don’t wanna destroy earth, and lifting strength ain’t striking strength. Not to mention trapped under mountains is a false argument if you want them to be over island level to begin withAnyways, the feat is inconsistent, seeing as the god's all out war at max would have High 6A feats, and gods are trapped under mountains numerous times throughout the series.
Firstly, the gods were going all out in their High 6A High 6B feats, their attacks simply missed, and then caused that damage.Putting my opinion of VSBW’s definitions of outliers aside, the gods don’t wanna destroy earth, and lifting strength ain’t striking strength. Not to mention trapped under mountains is a false argument if you want them to be over island level to begin with
She yeeted her son out of a mountain because he was ugly, made her husband's son slaughter his entire family, convinced her husband's lover to ask to see his true form, which killed her . . .Why would she want to harm anyone? She’s a goddess, not a monster.
Do you think Percy is the kind of guy who sees a bright light in the sky, learns it's Hera, then goes to ask people if it is, indeed, a literal supernova?If anything that supports my point, because he wouldn’t have said anything if he didn’t further clarification.
Supernovas can clearly mean different things as well, so I don't see the point here.He gets confused because “Zeus became Jupiter” can mean two things in the PJO verse.
Gonna point out that this isn’t what Cal meant. Gods have no issues harming some people (doubt anyone thinks otherwise) but when it is on the scale of wiping humanity from the face of the earth en masse, then they don’t wanna do it. They need people alive or else they fade and die so Hera being mad doesn’t mean she would be so mad as to also commit suicide when she is definitely use to Zeus’ shit at this point.She yeeted her son out of a mountain because he was ugly, made her husband's son slaughter his entire family, convinced her husband's lover to ask to see his true form, which killed her . . .