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The gods vaporizing multiple seas in their war.
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Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt
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I think there was still the timeframe and numbers issue for the sea one.
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Well it's said to have been done multiple times whenever their attacks missed.
Anyways, it mainly acts as a ballpark calc. I think the changes could be applied.
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Off thread a little, but one criticism I have towards the 6-C rating is that wasn't Clarisse able hurt Percy?
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Ratings are going to be changed anyway but no, other than bullying a 12 year old Percy she really isn't that on par.
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Massive L for Percy.
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Had you not read the capture the flag chapter?
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Another thing too, Percy had trouble against the Drakon while Clarisse didn’t (I could be wrong though)
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On this, the Drakkon was fated to only be killed by a child of Ares so Percy really couldn’t do anything in that situation.
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So about this...
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It's been years, but it could still have threatened him, right? And IIRC Clarissa was in a sort of amped state, so maybe that version scales?
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She broke her spear on the dragon's face and electrocuted it, not much of a tier difference there.
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I mean, breaking a spear made of that material is a feat in itself, no?
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Is it stated what the spear is made of?
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I mean, if it can hurt monsters, it's gotta be made of celestial bronze
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Probably, but I don’t think it was ever stated.
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Just to ask, since IRL Greek Mythology is canon to the Riordanverse, does that mean that myths that are not mentioned in series count as canon too?
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I mean, given that it's the only material commonly available to Camp Half-Blood capable of hurting monsters, that should be the default assumption.
No, Greek Mythology is not a single, unified text, the myths were passed down by word of mouth and as such there's dozens of different, contradicting versions. So while it can be assumed most of it is canon, we can't point at any feat not referenced in Riordan's works and assume it to be canon.
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Like I had said in another thread, when in doubt use either the earliest version of the myth or the version of the myth the book/series references
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That is impossible. We don't know what the "earliest version of the myth is" since it's not like historians can tell that for sure, and there isn't one specific version of greek mythology that Riordan references because there aren't specific versions of greek mythology at all, it's just a bunch of unrelated stories told by different people.
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Honestly, it's best to go by the most modern consensus on what the earliest myths are, Hellanic mythology is more well studied than one may think
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There is no "modern consensus" beyond "we can't know the origins for sure", besides nothing says that the origins should be what's used given that they probably barely resemble the conception of greek mythology used by Riordan.
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It’s specified that only a child of Ares can stop it so Percy literally wasn’t able to stop it since he couldn’t kill it and lacks the LS to pin it. He also couldn’t be threatened short of getting sprayed in its poison or nommed on which would hit his Heel via AoE which is almost like saying Ethan scales to Percy lol. Might go reread the chapter just to refresh my memory.
Clarisse got the Blessing of Ares as a result of shanking the drakon in the eye with her electric spear and snapping it to fry the thing from the inside out like Infinite said so this is all base Clarisse.
As for Blessing Clarisse scaling to Styx Percy, I’m honestly down with that. Percy says that she is just as invulnerable as his curse and going by Frank getting it from Mars in MoA, she would get much stronger as well, possibly above Styx Percy when I think about it.
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If that's the case, that seems reasonable.
I see. Still, I assume celestial bronze would have its durability scale pretty high so snapping it would be a noteworthy feat.
I dunno about any details, but I'm not opposed I guess
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Breaking CB might scale to a lot of people tbh. But the issue is that the durability seems to vary a lot since
- Half of Kronos’ scythe is CB and that thing is able to carve up Kronos himself whose presence itself can vape someone cursed with the Styx
- Masterbolt is made of CB and contains lightning nukes
- Percy’s shield gets dented by Thorn’s tail spikes ….. who Percy can fight and deflect with Riptide.
- Ethan shattering his sword on Styx Luke.
- Argo 2 having a CB hull which gets damaged by sea monsters that the 7 can fight.
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Hm, true. I guess the divine weapons could be assumed to be amped to be stronger/more durable than usual, to be fair, and I think Ethan being on the level of base Percy isn't too hard to believe.
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Is the whole spear celestial bronze, or just the tip?
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That is a good point, though.
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Not entirely sure. The spears are only described as CB javelins or CB spears from what I recall. Based on Thalia’s electric spear hiding as a collapsible mace canister like Riptide is a pen, hers would be entirely CB. Juno’s Gladius and IVLIVS are also solid metal spears, along with Hades Bident and Poseidon’s Trident, so there is certainly a precedent for the polearms being made entirely out of magic metals.
It’s probably best to leave this feat to the side imo since it’s shaky at best.
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This.
For example, Medusa being involved with Poseidon is canon way back when in PJO, even though it was never a myth and Ovid made it up back when he wrote er…Metamorphoses?
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Let me clarify this, in the Lightning Thief, Clarisse overpowered Percy and left him for dead in the river
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Yeah 12 year old Percy isn't at his peak
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Could I make a suggestion to give Percy separate keys for each book?
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Every single book?
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