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Oof thought it said ocean lmao. I'll re-calc it.I dunno about using the NAO since it says sea. Black, Caspian, Aegean or Mediterranean would be better imo
Plenty taken, add something constructive or leave.The whole premise behind Greek stars and now the Greek moon not “being real” has to be the most moronic argument I’ve heard in my 5 months on this wiki, no offense
That would probably be good, yes.Should I make a blog post for the vaporization calculation?
Will do!That would probably be good, yes.
Other relevant calculations would likely be useful as well.
I would like to point out that Percy's bullet deflection feat in TTC might not even be the best reaction feat for a Demigod in verse.So the 4C calculations are all wrong
We have no solid speed scaling feats from the Gods, they would simply rn have to massively upscale from the Demigods, who are going to be subsonic.
The Greek gods High 6A feats are in question, as Typhon may not have attacked the real Moon, and Zues has hax for his High 6A feat.
Although, it does say the gods vaporized oceans in their war, using the North Atlantic Ocean, it comes out to 24.2716491396 Petatons of TNT, or High 6A.
If the above feat is invalid, the only remaining feats are 6C, mostly in a casual manner.
These are dopeThere are several feats I can think of that could dethrone the aforementioned feat once quantified. These feats being:
- Percy and Jason reacting to Ephialtes strikes, which were calculated to move at Mach 3.
- Hazel's reactions somewhat scaling to Arion who can move at Hypersonic speeds in certain instances.
- Meg being able to intercept an arrow fired from a Demigod's bow from melee distance (as Demigod bows have abnormally high draw weights the arrows fired from said bows would move as fast as or faster than bullets according to 1, 2, 3).
I'm very curious about AP for them since I'm unsure if the Verse has Universal EnergyObviously there feats need to be calculated and approved first, but they are probably going to be better than the bullet deflection feat.
I personally think the current state of the Demigods' files warrants a CRT of their own, and not just for speed.
How far is Olympus from St LouisOut of curiosity, would Zeus's feats of shaking an entire city (St Louis) or the shockwave reaching even Olympus be calcable?
I'll be there for it. The current profiles should have been CRT'd like 3 years ago.I would like to point out that Percy's bullet deflection feat in TTC might not even be the best reaction feat for a Demigod in verse.
There are several feats I can think of that could dethrone the aforementioned feat once quantified. These feats being:
Obviously there feats need to be calculated and approved first, but they are probably going to be better than the bullet deflection feat.
- Percy and Jason reacting to Ephialtes strikes, which were calculated to move at Mach 3.
- Hazel's reactions somewhat scaling to Arion who can move at Hypersonic speeds in certain instances.
- Meg being able to intercept an arrow fired from a Demigod's bow from melee distance (as Demigod bows have abnormally high draw weights the arrows fired from said bows would move as fast as or faster than bullets according to 1, 2, 3).
I personally think the current state of the Demigods' files warrants a CRT of their own, and not just for speed.
I agree. Also for these feats, I would need a more precise distance in order to calc the reaction.I'll be there for it. The current profiles should have been CRT'd like 3 years ago.
How far is Olympus from St Louis
I think you misunderstood me. These are two separate feats.How far is Olympus from St Louis
This is the other feat:"Then the scene changed. I was in St. Louis, standing downtown under the Arch. I'd been there before.
In fact, I'd almost fallen to my death there before.
Over the city, a thunderstorm boiled—a wall of absolute black with lightning streaking across the sky.
A few blocks away, swarms of emergency vehicles gathered with their lights flashing. A column of dust
rose from a mound of rubble, which I realized was a collapsed skyscraper.
A nearby reporter was yelling into her microphone: "Officials are describing this as a structural
failure, Dan, though no one seems to know if it is related to the storm conditions."
Wind whipped her hair. The temperature was dropping rapidly, like ten degrees just since I'd been
standing there.
"Thankfully, the building had been abandoned for demolition," she said. "But police have evacuated
all nearby buildings for fear the collapse might trigger—"
She faltered as a mighty groan cut through the sky. A blast of lightning hit the center of the darkness.
The entire city shook. The air glowed, and every hair on my body stood up. The blast was so powerful I
knew it could only be one thing: Zeus's master bolt. It should have vaporized its target, but the dark cloud
only staggered backward. A smoky fist appeared out of the clouds. It smashed another tower, and the
whole thing collapsed like children's blocks."
A column of storm was approaching the Hudson River, moving rapidly over the Jersey shore.
Chariots circled it, locked in combat with the creature in the cloud.
The gods attacked. Lightning flashed. Arrows of gold and silver streaked into the cloud like rocket
tracers and exploded. Slowly, the cloud ripped apart, and I saw Typhon clearly for the first time.
I knew as long as I lived (which might not be that long) I would never be able to get the image out of
my mind. Typhon's head shifted constantly. Every moment he was a different monster, each more
horrible than the last. Looking at his face would've driven me insane, so I focused on his body, which
wasn't much better. He was humanoid, but his skin reminded me of a meat loaf sandwich that had been in
someone's locker all year. He was mottled green, with blisters the size of buildings, and blackened
patches from eons of being stuck under a volcano. His hands were human, but with talons like an eagle's.
His legs were scaly and reptilian.
"The Olympians are giving their final effort." Kronos laughed. "How pathetic."
Zeus threw a thunderbolt from his chariot. The blast lit up the world. I could feel the shock even here
on Olympus, but when the dust cleared, Typhon was still standing. He staggered a bit, with a smoking
crater on top of his misshapen head, but he roared in anger and kept advancing.
Seeing visualizations would definitely help.Do any of these events happen in the graphic novels?
Visual novels leave out a lot of stuff, I read the Lost Hero and it kinda skims over stuffSeeing visualizations would definitely help.
The city shaking probably won't come out to much higher than City level, and also, do we know how far way Olympus is from where the Lightning Bolt was thrown?I think you misunderstood me. These are two separate feats.
This is the city shaking feat, whole scene for context.
This is the other feat:
100% Agreed. Probably will be like the Hyperion feat, might not exist in the Visual Novel.Visual novels leave out a lot of stuff, I read the Lost Hero and it kinda skims over stuff
TrueVisual novels leave out a lot of stuff, I read the Lost Hero and it kinda skims over stuff
Well, we know Olympus is 6,000 feet in the air. Not sure how far the Empire State is from there though.The city shaking probably won't come out to much higher than City level, and also, do we know how far way Olympus is from where the Lightning Bolt was thrown?
100% Agreed. Probably will be like the Hyperion feat, might not exist in the Visual Novel.
Well I think Mount Olympus is now in New York in the Percy Jackson Verse.Well, we know Olympus is 6,000 feet in the air. Not sure how far the Empire State is from there though.
For the previously mentioned reaction feats, I am currently calculating them. For those that require some interpretation I will post them here so that a verdict can be reached on how valid they are and what should be done with them.I agree. Also for these feats, I would need a more precise distance in order to calc the reaction.
Do any of these events happen in the graphic novels?
On Olympus being shook all the way from St. Lois, I think that was with the Masterbolt, which would only scale to Zues and Typhon. Idk how to calc it, but a quick search says it's 8,896 kilometers away.
Edit: Shaking the Earth without causing sever damage (Magnitude 4 earthquake worldwide) is Small Country Level.
Maybe a key then?Poseidon says that the gods used to be stronger in ancient times, so scaling stuff from back then to their current versions is a bit sketchy.
Do you have the quote for Poseidon’s statement? It would be appreciated.Due to how the celestial body shenanigans in the verse work, I agree that we can't really use anything to do with the stars, sun and moon.
Flooding, if he just made it rain then we can't seriously use it as an AP feat. And also, it's possible he didn't flood the entire planet, prob just the "known world" for the Greeks, we know that the gods don't have influence over the north like in Alaska, for example, and I don't think the other pantheons would like Zeus flooding their territories.
Poseidon says that the gods used to be stronger in ancient times, so scaling stuff from back then to their current versions is a bit sketchy.
The god's eyes glowed. "No, Percy. In the old days, Olympus was almost overthrown by Typhon. He is husband of Echidna—"
"Met her at the Arch," I muttered. "Not nice."
"—and the father of all monsters. We can never forget how close he came to destroying us all; how he humiliated us! We were more powerful back in the old days. Now we can expect no help from Poseidon because he's fighting his own war. Hades sits in his realm and does nothing, and Demeter and Persephone follow his lead. It will take all our remaining power to oppose the storm giant. We can't divide our forces, nor wait until he gets to New York. We have to battle him now. And we're making progress." - The Last Olympian.
Yeah, in the same story, it says Selene fought Typhon with other sky gods, right?Although, reading it again in context, it might just be because they don't have Poseidon, Hades and Demeter helping them this time, so them being weaker as a group rather than individually. But in the book where Percy describes the fight in ancient times, the other gods just run away and Zeus has to 1v1 Typhon, so that wouldn't make much sense, although Percy could just be wrong on how the old fight happened.
Like you said, in context it seems like Hermes was referring to some of the gods missing rather than their power decreasing. I don’t think there’s a need for old gods and present gods to be treated as having different power levels then.I remembered it wrong, it was Hermes:
Although, reading it again in context, it might just be because they don't have Poseidon, Hades and Demeter helping them this time, so them being weaker as a group rather than individually. But in the book where Percy describes the fight in ancient times, the other gods just run away and Zeus has to 1v1 Typhon, so that wouldn't make much sense, although Percy could just be wrong on how the old fight happened.
That worksMaybe a key then?
Well idk anymore, the full quote implies they're weaker because the gods are all seperated, doing their own thing.That works
Modern Day | Ancient Times would certainly work
I think Devine Form | Godly Avatar would be the more appropriate key.That works
Modern Day | Ancient Times would certainly work
It would be inconsistent though, as depending on the amount of avatars hey have out, their power varies.I think Devine Form | Godly Avatar would be the more appropriate key.
There's no real evidence to suggest they got weaker between ancient and modern times, there is however quite a bit of evidence to suggest that their avatars are significantly weaker than their Devine Forms.
Everything from Hephaestus' conversation with Leo to Apollo's numerous monologues in ToA supports gods splitting up their essence to exist in multiple places at once, with parts of themselves being wherever they are invoked, either by name or domain and inhabiting separate bodies to interact with people on earth.