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If only we had some kind of standard explaining specifically why we can’t use destruction of things of an unknown dura for scaling AP
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You didn't understand my point at all.You explained why it doesn’t have dura and then said “so it has some kind of dura”
Either way there’s nothing to suggest the hypothetical dura of the thing is anything near 2-C
You brought a brilliant idea, go ahead to staff discussion and create CRTIf only we had some kind of standard explaining specifically why we can’t use destruction of things of an unknown dura for scaling AP
Hmmmm
You brought a brilliant idea, go ahead to staff discussion and create CRT
Wait I was being sarcastic but I thought we had a DC page, the only thing we have is a section in the AP pageYou brought a brilliant idea, go ahead to staff discussion and create CRT
And if the structure can withstand 2C energies without shaking, then shaking it is a 2C feat.Yes that’s what we call a high 3-A feat
Yeah it would be since the feat is based upon how it’s the equivalent of the GOD’s fighting and resulting in 2 universes being destroyed, which is a 2C feat.DC vs AP
it’s not consistent, and it doesn’t matter who shakes what if the feat itself isn’t 2-C
The feat would be 2C under that notion yes and that wasn’t the point of me bringing those other things up. They were simply meant to establish how this notion of them being 2C is supported within the series itself considering the fact that 2 GOD’s fighting results in a 2C feat and Jiren and Goku both have supporting evidence indicating they were GOD level and above even when heavily surpassed.This is still unrelated to the world of void feat, which is still not 2-C
I can't believe already 3 Staffs agreed with this........Agree: @Maitreya @The_real_cal_howard @LordTracer @XSOULOFCINDERX @Reiner @Zamasu_Chan @Fastestthingalive50 @Eseseso @luis3333 @ShakeResounding @DarkDragonMedeus @DarlingAurora @Sus @Lormac_CC @ObberGobb @Spinoirr @GodlyCharmander @BOEGVELD @Quantu @Lord_Farquaad69420 @FluffyCreatureZ
Disagree: @ZillertheBucko @Purgy @AguilaR202 @God900 @Darksmash
Neutral: @KLOL506 @thetechmaster36 @Nullflowerblush @HammerStrikes219 @Rikimarox2 @DivineAura44 @Zencha9
Ok this is all who I have so far.
Let me know if these are your correct positions or if I’m missing anyone
You Lost me there, dude, it's an infinite nonexistent void. There is nothing of dura about it......tfAnd if the structure can withstand 2C energies without shaking, then shaking it is a 2C feat.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)I can't believe already 3 Staffs agreed with this........
An empty space still has durability.You Lost me there, dude, it's an infinite nonexistent void. There is nothing of dura about it......tf
I also agree with this.Agree: @Maitreya @The_real_cal_howard @LordTracer @XSOULOFCINDERX @Reiner @Zamasu_Chan @Fastestthingalive50 @Eseseso @luis3333 @ShakeResounding @DarkDragonMedeus @DarlingAurora @Sus @Lormac_CC @ObberGobb @Spinoirr @GodlyCharmander @BOEGVELD @Quantu @Lord_Farquaad69420 @FluffyCreatureZ
Disagree: @ZillertheBucko @Purgy @AguilaR202 @God900 @Darksmash
Neutral: @KLOL506 @thetechmaster36 @Nullflowerblush @HammerStrikes219 @Rikimarox2 @DivineAura44 @Zencha9
Ok this is all who I have so far.
Let me know if these are your correct positions or if I’m missing anyone
This was responded to already, alotUsing your logic
Ssj god (red ) >>>> ssj blue
Since goku affected the universe with ssj god and merely affected a planet fighting frieza with ssj blue
no because it is ******* massive, and dragon ball characters are literally never doing thisAnd if the structure can withstand 2C energies without shaking, then shaking it is a 2C feat.
the logic is objectively incorrect, so no, this is not allowed to go throughCAN THIS BE DONE THROUGH QUICKLY THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH STAFF AS WELL AS REGULAR MEMBER AGREEMENT
we should not ignore blatant feat.
Its hilarious because this was answered so many timesno because it is ******* massive, and dragon ball characters are literally never doing this
if that was the case then every time goku fights on earth, he should be shaking the entire earth, but the earth can take hits from him without shaking, let alone an infinite empty space
this. is. goofy.
You are indirectly proposing goku is below planet levelno because it is ******* massive, and dragon ball characters are literally never doing this
if that was the case then every time goku fights on earth, he should be shaking the entire earth, but the earth can take hits from him without shaking, let alone an infinite empty space
this. is. goofy.
Lmaothe logic is objectively incorrect, so no, this is not allowed to go through
objectively
The issue with your logic here is that you’re talking about instances where ki control is a viable option. The same cannot be said here because GOD’s either have poor ki control in general or as they power up their ki control becomes significantly worse considering the fact that they can’t control their ki enough to stop 2 whole universes from being destroyed.no because it is ******* massive, and dragon ball characters are literally never doing this
if that was the case then every time goku fights on earth, he should be shaking the entire earth, but the earth can take hits from him without shaking, let alone an infinite empty space
this. is. goofy.
it's hilarious cause I haven't seen a single valid counterargument yetIts hilarious because this was answered so many times
Stop Repeating the exact same argument i beg you
We explained why the stupid "but goku didn't destroy earth" argument makes no sense, we also explained why the gods did NOT replicate what goku didit's hilarious cause I haven't seen a single valid counterargument yet
I get that you guys have been saying a lot of stuff in response, but the valid part is more important than the saying stuff part
maybe if you gave a good argument (or gave up) then I wouldn't have to repeat myself
NO I AM NOT, YOU'RE MISSING THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN POINT OF WHAT I SAIDYou are indirectly proposing goku is below planet level
Nah, someone above said that 3 Gods could destroy an equivalent of 3 Universes thoWait, is it said anywhere that the 3 GoDs did not shake the void?
After seeing the aftermath, the grand priest said that its ok and only needs to be fixed on some parts, implying that the clash didn't cause significant damage (such as threatening the entire structure)Wait, is it said anywhere that the 3 GoDs did not shake the void?
I mean Jiren and Goku never threatened the whole structure either. They simply shook it.After seeing the aftermath, the grand priest said that its ok and only needs to be fixed on some parts, implying that the clash didn't cause significant damage (such as threatening the entire structure)
THIS DOES NOT NARROW IT DOWNWe explai-
Which is more than the minor inconvenience the gods didI mean Jiren and Goku never threatened the whole structure either. They simply shook it.
Bruh the shaking of void statement was said by Android 18After seeing the aftermath, the grand priest said that its ok and only needs to be fixed on some parts, implying that the clash didn't cause significant damage (such as threatening the entire structure)
Ah yes ignore everything i said and just say im wrong giving 0 ******* explanationTHIS DOES NOT NARROW IT DOWN
everything you have said on this thread so far has been completely wrong, so why don't you show me the message in which you explain what you think is correct, so I can tell you why it's wrong
1) Is there any proof the WoV was shaken in their fight?Give me one evidence that the gods can't shake the world of void
Not shaking it doesn't mean they can't especially in DB
Is it an inconvenience though? It was simply an observation and awe at their power. I don't remember it ever being seen as something to be worried about.Which is more than the minor inconvenience the gods did
Again. Any actual proof that the Gods used explicitly their "100%" or just suggestions?Which is more than the minor inconvenience the gods did
Exactly...Is it an inconvenience though? It was simply an observation and awe at their power. I don't remember it ever being seen as something to be worried about.
So because Goku is in base he has no ki? That's just not the case.I agree.
More evidence: whis confirms the rumor that jiren surpasses the GoDs in his most suppressed state pre omen 1 fight.
"I dare say... like a GoD. He is the one who reached that state, perhaps even surpassed it."
Also I see claims that the world of void was only shaken by both Goku and jiren. But this is wrong. The moment jiren starts walking, the world of void shakes and Goku is in base form.