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Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling
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thetechmaster36
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Cosmology of the World of Void doesn't necessarily matter because the structure itself was unaffected by the 3 GoDs fighting, when 2 have already shown that them fighting together results in the power to destroy two universes - yet it was shook twice by Jiren's Ki and Goku's Ki respectively, hence why they would be scaling to 2-C.
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I mean, they should be 2C as well
But the wiki doesn't accept it
The reasoning is that the 2C feat takes 2 gods and a singular god can't perform it
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It does when it is the one technically being shaken by the two instances anyway.
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A character has high 6A durability via size alone
Performs a 5A durability feat
Take it like that
By sheer size, wov is either high 3A or low 2C, but it could withstand much stronger attacks
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Soo Basically
GoD = At least Low 2-C ( placeholder for being able to contribute half the power of a 2-C feat )
2 GoDs = 2-C
WoV shaking treshold > 3 GoDs > 2-C
UI 1 Goku / Supressed Jiren >> 2-C ( individually shook the WoV )
UI 2 Goku / SS2 Kefla >>> 2-C
SSB Goku ( Post UI2) / SSB Vegeta >>> 2-C
SSB KK20 / SSBE / GoD Toppo 20x>>>> 2-C
UI 3 / Jiren ( Full Power) >20x>>>> 2-C
MUI > Limits Broken Jiren >> 20x>>>> 2-C
Note that the > just imply some indeterminate degree of superiority barring KK20 which is linear 20x increase in power
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Anyway, my stance towards the CRT is neutral still.
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The wiki accepts post ui2 ssb goku as superior to kefla? Thats kinda... ugh
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As I've stated before, the shaking was caused by the void not being able to contain the ki. This means any additional amount of ki would aid in the shaking. The only way for Goku's ki alone (not explicitly stated) to shake the void is if his ki is the only ki present.
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DivineAura44
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She was outright stated to have one shot goku with her final attack if it wasn't for his massive speed advantage
And why stamina matters? She still tanked attacks from ui2 goku? They weren't that much but she still tanked punches and kept going
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Huh? Where? When? When was this ever the case? This is headcanon territory my guy, if the World of Void is shaking because of a person's Ki, then it means that said person's Ki is strong enough to cause it. It's not that hard to understand.
Blatantly false. Are we gonna say that the reason he shook the World of Void is because his Ki was "too much" for the WoV to handle since it was occupying the same space as Base Caulifla's Ki?
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The 3 way clash couldn't even shake it, even if jiren and goku were insignificantaly effecting it, its still more than what the gods did
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I don't quite understand what are you two talking about, could you please explain?
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Kefla scales to ui2, we already accept that and its on her profile
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UIO, currently the second lowest Low 2-C on the scaling chain, would be changed to 2-C for being > the combined might of 3 random GoDs.
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Yeah this is pretty much it.
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How would it be worded on profiles?
Imo it should be like
2-C ( Shook the entirety of the World of Void, a realm devoid of space and time that was unaffected by the combined clash of three Gods of Destruction; a battle between two Gods of Destruction is prohibited under normal circumstances, as it would result in the simultaneous destruction of two universes).
Imo it should be like
2-C ( Shook the entirety of the World of Void, a realm devoid of space and time that was unaffected by the combined clash of three Gods of Destruction; a battle between two Gods of Destruction is prohibited under normal circumstances, as it would result in the simultaneous destruction of two universes).
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Devoid of space and time part is contradicted
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Better.
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Just erase that bit then, probably just swap with …. A realm beside / outside / whatever adjective describes not being inside one of the 13 universes… basically because Zeno would have nuked it by accident if that werent the case and more so to emphasize the fact it is not a standard universe which GoDs can destroy.
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It seems that the main crux is that we come to an agreement on how "serious" the three gods were fighting in the void.
Once we establish that, I have no issues with the proposal should we say yes, "they fought at the same or more effort Beerus and Champa would fight."
Once we establish that, I have no issues with the proposal should we say yes, "they fought at the same or more effort Beerus and Champa would fight."
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Well, we do know they had to be serious enough to not piss off the Zen'o's so uh...
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wait, can you use multipliers on low multiversal characters to increase the amount of universes they can destroy
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I agree.
More evidence: whis confirms the rumor that jiren surpasses the GoDs in his most suppressed state pre omen 1 fight.
"I dare say... like a GoD. He is the one who reached that state, perhaps even surpassed it."
Also I see claims that the world of void was only shaken by both Goku and jiren. But this is wrong. The moment jiren starts walking, the world of void shakes and Goku is in base form.
More evidence: whis confirms the rumor that jiren surpasses the GoDs in his most suppressed state pre omen 1 fight.
"I dare say... like a GoD. He is the one who reached that state, perhaps even surpassed it."
Also I see claims that the world of void was only shaken by both Goku and jiren. But this is wrong. The moment jiren starts walking, the world of void shakes and Goku is in base form.
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To clarify, This makes the size of WoV at bare minimum 2-C
If this gets through, SSB gogeta and FP SSJ broly also becomes 2-C
Funny but their clashes didn't destroy the universe so we should also make U7 2-C.
If this gets through, SSB gogeta and FP SSJ broly also becomes 2-C
Funny but their clashes didn't destroy the universe so we should also make U7 2-C.
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What about angels ?
Will they now scale to 2-C feat of Beerus and Champa combined as before?
Or
Will they scale to supposedly larger feat of 3 GoDs?
Will they now scale to 2-C feat of Beerus and Champa combined as before?
Or
Will they scale to supposedly larger feat of 3 GoDs?
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Wasn't already said that shaking the Wov was only a High 3-A feat?
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Im not using multipliers
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But gods don't just multiply their power, gogeta would only be 2B scaling above 1001 gods
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You can't reach 2-B by multipliers, tf
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