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Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling

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The proof is in the crt?

2 gods clashing = the simultaneous destruction of 2 universes

The wov could withstand the clash of even 3 gods

Its pretty simple?
Right now, Beerus is currently rated Low 2C, not 2C.

More specifically, Gods of Destruction I like to add on here.
 
I looking at this from a cosmological standpoint as there are the statements relating to the World of Void if memories served me right since there is nothing much to go by aside from those statements.
Cosmology of the World of Void doesn't necessarily matter because the structure itself was unaffected by the 3 GoDs fighting, when 2 have already shown that them fighting together results in the power to destroy two universes - yet it was shook twice by Jiren's Ki and Goku's Ki respectively, hence why they would be scaling to 2-C.
 
Right now, Beerus is currently rated Low 2C, not 2C.

More specifically, Gods of Destruction I like to add on here.
I mean, they should be 2C as well

But the wiki doesn't accept it

The reasoning is that the 2C feat takes 2 gods and a singular god can't perform it
 
Cosmology of the World of Void doesn't necessarily matter because the structure itself was unaffected by the 3 GoDs fighting, when 2 have already shown that them fighting together results in the power to destroy two universes - yet it was shook twice by Jiren's Ki and Goku's Ki respectively, hence why they would be scaling to 2-C.
It does when it is the one technically being shaken by the two instances anyway.
 
It does when it is the one technically being shaken by the two instances anyway.
A character has high 6A durability via size alone
Performs a 5A durability feat
Take it like that

By sheer size, wov is either high 3A or low 2C, but it could withstand much stronger attacks
 
Literally no; they should be scaling to 2-C, flat out. Show legitimate proof that both of them actively contributed to shaking the World of Void in both instances.

Need I refer to the UIO1 scene again?
Even if this complete misinterpretation of the scenes were actually the case, the simple fact that they weren’t even clashing or combining their power in any way invalidates any notion of trying to divide the feat and it would still be scaleable to both individually, as it would still be from two completely independent power sources regardless.

Soo Basically

GoD = At least Low 2-C ( placeholder for being able to contribute half the power of a 2-C feat )

2 GoDs = 2-C

WoV shaking treshold > 3 GoDs > 2-C

UI 1 Goku / Supressed Jiren >> 2-C ( individually shook the WoV )

UI 2 Goku / SS2 Kefla >>> 2-C

SSB Goku ( Post UI2) / SSB Vegeta >>> 2-C

SSB KK20 / SSBE / GoD Toppo 20x>>>> 2-C

UI 3 / Jiren ( Full Power) >20x>>>> 2-C

MUI > Limits Broken Jiren >> 20x>>>> 2-C

Note that the > just imply some indeterminate degree of superiority barring KK20 which is linear 20x increase in power
 
Literally no; they should be scaling to 2-C, flat out. Show legitimate proof that both of them actively contributed to shaking the World of Void in both instances.

Need I refer to the UIO1 scene again?
As I've stated before, the shaking was caused by the void not being able to contain the ki. This means any additional amount of ki would aid in the shaking. The only way for Goku's ki alone (not explicitly stated) to shake the void is if his ki is the only ki present.
 
The wiki accepts post ui2 ssb goku as superior to kefla? Thats kinda... ugh
I don’t think we have any frame of reference to compare them, and they all just scale above UI 1 hence why I just went with >>> 2-C for all of them to be safe
 
A character has high 6A durability via size alone
Performs a 5A durability feat
Take it like that

By sheer size, wov is either high 3A or low 2C, but it could withstand much stronger attacks
Shaking, in this context, a construct is technically not destroying a entire construct, but affecting the construct in a less destructive way specifically.


As to whatever or not this should really counts as 2C, that is the part that should been addressed anyway.
 
Doesn't Champa outright admit the only reason Kefla kept up was due to stamina?
She was outright stated to have one shot goku with her final attack if it wasn't for his massive speed advantage

And why stamina matters? She still tanked attacks from ui2 goku? They weren't that much but she still tanked punches and kept going
 
As I've stated before, the shaking was caused by the void not being able to contain the ki
Huh? Where? When? When was this ever the case? This is headcanon territory my guy, if the World of Void is shaking because of a person's Ki, then it means that said person's Ki is strong enough to cause it. It's not that hard to understand.
The only way for Goku's ki alone (not explicitly stated) to shake the void is if his ki is the only ki present.
Blatantly false. Are we gonna say that the reason he shook the World of Void is because his Ki was "too much" for the WoV to handle since it was occupying the same space as Base Caulifla's Ki?
 
Shaking, in this context, a construct is technically not destroying a entire construct, but affecting the construct in a less destructive way specifically.


As to whatever or not this should really counts as 2C, that is the part that should been addressed anyway.
The 3 way clash couldn't even shake it, even if jiren and goku were insignificantaly effecting it, its still more than what the gods did
 
Huh? Where? When? When was this ever the case? This is headcanon territory my guy, if the World of Void is shaking because of a person's Ki, then it means that said person's Ki is strong enough to cause it. It's not that hard to understand.

Blatantly false. Are we gonna say that the reason he shook the World of Void is because his Ki was "too much" for the WoV to handle since it was occupying the same space as Base Caulifla's Ki?
I don't quite understand what are you two talking about, could you please explain?
 
I don’t think we have any frame of reference to compare them, and they all just scale above UI 1 hence why I just went with >>> 2-C for all of them to be safe
Kefla scales to ui2, we already accept that and its on her profile
 
Lets not dwell into the kefla stuff too much, she scales to this regardless
 
Soo Basically

GoD = At least Low 2-C ( placeholder for being able to contribute half the power of a 2-C feat )

2 GoDs = 2-C

WoV shaking treshold > 3 GoDs > 2-C

UI 1 Goku / Supressed Jiren >> 2-C ( individually shook the WoV )

UI 2 Goku / SS2 Kefla >>> 2-C

SSB Goku ( Post UI2) / SSB Vegeta >>> 2-C

SSB KK20 / SSBE / GoD Toppo 20x>>>> 2-C

UI 3 / Jiren ( Full Power) >20x>>>> 2-C

MUI > Limits Broken Jiren >> 20x>>>> 2-C

Note that the > just imply some indeterminate degree of superiority barring KK20 which is linear 20x increase in power
Yeah this is pretty much it.
 
How would it be worded on profiles?
Imo it should be like

2-C ( Shook the entirety of the World of Void, a realm devoid of space and time that was unaffected by the combined clash of three Gods of Destruction; a battle between two Gods of Destruction is prohibited under normal circumstances, as it would result in the simultaneous destruction of two universes).
 
How would it be worded on profiles?
Imo it should be like

2-C ( Shook the entirety of the World of Void, a realm devoid of space and time that was unaffected by the combined clash of three Gods of Destruction; a battle between two Gods of Destruction is prohibited under normal circumstances, as it would result in the simultaneous destruction of two universes).
Devoid of space and time part is contradicted
 
How would it be worded on profiles?
Imo it should be like

2-C ( Shook the entirety of the World of Void, a realm that was unaffected by the combined clash of three Gods of Destruction; a battle between two Gods of Destruction is prohibited under normal circumstances, as it would result in the simultaneous destruction of two universes).
Better.
 
Devoid of space and time part is contradicted
Just erase that bit then, probably just swap with …. A realm beside / outside / whatever adjective describes not being inside one of the 13 universes… basically because Zeno would have nuked it by accident if that werent the case and more so to emphasize the fact it is not a standard universe which GoDs can destroy.
 
Would 3 gods scale to 3 universes? Since 1 god can destroy their universe and 2 destroy both?

Or its just >>>2 universes
 
It seems that the main crux is that we come to an agreement on how "serious" the three gods were fighting in the void.

Once we establish that, I have no issues with the proposal should we say yes, "they fought at the same or more effort Beerus and Champa would fight."
 
It seems that the main crux is that we come to an agreement on how "serious" the three gods were fighting in the void.

Once we establish that, I have no issues with the proposal should we say yes, "they fought at the same or more effort Beerus and Champa would fight."
Well, we do know they had to be serious enough to not piss off the Zen'o's so uh...
 
Soo Basically GoD = At least Low 2-C ( placeholder for being able to contribute half the power of a 2-C feat )

2 GoDs = 2-C

WoV shaking treshold > 3 GoDs > 2-C

UI 1 Goku / Supressed Jiren >> 2-C ( individually shook the WoV )

UI 2 Goku / SS2 Kefla >>> 2-C

SSB Goku ( Post UI2) / SSB Vegeta >>> 2-C

SSB KK20 / SSBE / GoD Toppo 20x>>>> 2-C

UI 3 / Jiren ( Full Power) >20x>>>> 2-C

MUI > Limits Broken Jiren >> 20x>>>> 2-C

Note that the > just imply some indeterminate degree of superiority barring KK20 which is linear 20x increase in power
wait, can you use multipliers on low multiversal characters to increase the amount of universes they can destroy
 
To clarify, This makes the size of WoV at bare minimum 2-C
If this gets through, SSB gogeta and FP SSJ broly also becomes 2-C
Funny but their clashes didn't destroy the universe so we should also make U7 2-C.
 
What about angels ?
Will they now scale to 2-C feat of Beerus and Champa combined as before?
Or
Will they scale to supposedly larger feat of 3 GoDs?
 
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