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It’s a supporting point for the conclusion itself of the OP which is in contest again, so it’s worth bringing up at this point.
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Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling
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We didn't see that. We just saw some destruction happening on Earth. We never saw them jeopardizing anything on a large scale. Two GoDs sparring lightly does not instantly mean universe is poofed. It's just referring to the outcome that would happen if they were let loose, which is why Angels stopped it.
That's totally wrong. You should go back again to rewatch the fight sequences if you think that happened.
But anyway, I guess we are reverting the changes here.
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1)Plots are basically proceeded with something that has no use within main ground of the story, here you have entire thing going over stage. Less credible argument indeed.
2)If you want to proceed regardless than saying wov suffered with plot makes more sense as it has less ground with in this particular story.
3) they weren't going all out.
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Op is going with different point not that I disagree with what you are proposing, it'll mess up the thread hope you understand.
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I will note it's been a while, but it was literally stated that Whis or Vados had to interrupt it, and it was predicted that if those final clashes wasn't intercepted; would have destroyed U6 and U7. IIRC that is.
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They destroyed the stage without touching it.
I told her it’s ok to post it. Stand down.
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Oh ok
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1) Or you could just say everything gets destroyed at once. Like Goku vs Beerus. “Plot” is a term that can mean literally anything at any given point in time since everything done by a story amounts to plot. So just saying plot is meaningless.
2) The grounds it stands on are perfectly stable. It’s a confirmed fact within the series that 2 GOD’s can never fight without annihilating 2 universes. Meanwhile the WoV can withstand up to 4 GOD’s fighting. Therefore it has to have 2C durability. You simply claiming it has less ground within in the story does not establish that it does.
3) They don’t even need to be going all out to perform said 2C feat.
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That's manga. Regardless AKM referring to different scene than what you're thinking.
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Yeah the quote is (right before Beerus and Champa were about to punch each other):
Whis: “that’s enough.”
Vados: “Are you trying to destroy the universe.”
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I didn't bring the plot, you did.
Has been dealt with and not a counter.
Doesn't matter
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No….you were the one who first mentioned plot. I brought it up as a response to you.
No it has not. I know because I’m the one who has been arguing about it. And that point has not been dealt with nor has it been countered.
Yes it does because it becomes increasingly more of an assumption on your part the lower the threshold is required to go.
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Again, that never happened. If I stop a fight between two kids saying "are you trying to break each other's bones" that doesn't mean their next punch was going to do that. It just means that's an eventuality if they continued to escalate it.
Anyway, if you're fine with reverting the changes, I'd like you to do so.
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So you have the stage argument again standing then try debunk it.
Has been dealt akm sama and my point above? Try over it
Then try calculating and then address it.
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2-C over time is still 2-C. Breaking bones requires joules over time values.
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Beerus and Champa were doing it without flexing their strength. They were just yelling at each other.
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They were also furious.
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So? Is yelling as powerful as striking strength?
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Just asking a question.
The consensus of the scene here seems to be that the 2-C destruction would be from them fighting against each other. Since that’s the case, why is the feat divided and not scaled to both individually anyways, them clashing against each other isn’t their powers combining in any way and creating a new power to divide the feat.
Which would be consistent with the GoDs being able to tank the 2-C shockwaves and destruction of their full power clashes and GoD tier characters tanking the impact of their clashes themselves as their fists don’t get shattered (just look at Goku vs. Jiren), rather than some weird vortex/amalgam that transcends them being inexplicably generated, no?
The consensus of the scene here seems to be that the 2-C destruction would be from them fighting against each other. Since that’s the case, why is the feat divided and not scaled to both individually anyways, them clashing against each other isn’t their powers combining in any way and creating a new power to divide the feat.
Which would be consistent with the GoDs being able to tank the 2-C shockwaves and destruction of their full power clashes and GoD tier characters tanking the impact of their clashes themselves as their fists don’t get shattered (just look at Goku vs. Jiren), rather than some weird vortex/amalgam that transcends them being inexplicably generated, no?
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I did multiple times. The stage argument is similar to the earth argument. It all just gets destroyed at once.
And I have dealt with AKM’s point. I quoted them. My point was never dealt with. So please, try again.
Have you just not read what I posted? Since I did calculate it.
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This doesn’t make sense. 3 GOD’s fighting is naturally higher than 2 GOD’s fighting. Even without all 3 GOD’s going all out they’d still be unleashing the equivalent of 2 GOD’s fighting.
The WoV is said to be to withstand 4 GOD’s fighting. So even them using half their power still results in 2C energy being unleashed.
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I stg if this revision gets reverted and shut down for reasons that were disputed all throughout this thread
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Kiai is a thing, yes.
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10 pages holy ****
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And show me where they’re using kiai and not regular shouting.
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From what I understand as to the vote count:
3 staff members agree with the CRT (maybe 2 but last I heard of Lord Griffion was that he was neutral but leaned towards agreeing)
3 staff members are in disagreement towards the CRT
And one other staff member is neutral in that they are fine with the CRT but if other staff members are in disagreement with this then it may need to be revised.
So the tally count is:
Agree: @KLOL506 @LordTracer @LordGriffin1000 (maybe)
Disagree: @Damage3245 @AKM sama @Maverick_Zero_X
Neutral: @DarkDragonMedeus
There are also generally more agreements than disagreements but the staff approval is required.
Are these all the correct positions you have?
3 staff members agree with the CRT (maybe 2 but last I heard of Lord Griffion was that he was neutral but leaned towards agreeing)
3 staff members are in disagreement towards the CRT
And one other staff member is neutral in that they are fine with the CRT but if other staff members are in disagreement with this then it may need to be revised.
So the tally count is:
Agree: @KLOL506 @LordTracer @LordGriffin1000 (maybe)
Disagree: @Damage3245 @AKM sama @Maverick_Zero_X
Neutral: @DarkDragonMedeus
There are also generally more agreements than disagreements but the staff approval is required.
Are these all the correct positions you have?
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Tbh, I don't want to sound biased or smth, but after reading everything, it is impossible to disagree with it.
So I want my vote to be leaning toward neutral for now. Thanks!
So I want my vote to be leaning toward neutral for now. Thanks!
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I agree with the revision
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Then hope you don't accuse me for using plot first now. Also circular reasoning fallacy as I've dealth with this before. I discredit this argument.
Stage point standing over right above.
Tell me the percentage of power they were using in wov then.
Best of luck
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This thread has so much filler I felt.like I was watching Naruto all over again... My god, this was accepted in page 6.
Also, AKM really just regurgitates the same argumentd thrown and answered in page 1 and 2, and everyone agrees with it. But only when it comes from AKM. The bias is unreal, and I'm disappointed in this wiki
Also, AKM really just regurgitates the same argumentd thrown and answered in page 1 and 2, and everyone agrees with it. But only when it comes from AKM. The bias is unreal, and I'm disappointed in this wiki
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Funny that is as same arguments over 7 pages brought up and got destroyed within 2 pages.
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What's wrong with it?
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I too am disappointed for slightly different reasons, but yes the staff opinion is worshipped way too much here
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