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Dragon Ball Super Episode 62: I'm still on a streak and Goku is likely to get jobbered again
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In my opinion Jiren's relationship with Toppo is purely professional, but Toppo takes it as them being friends. It fits more in line with the way Jiren's feelings on friendship and relying on others has been described.
Jiren goes crazy because he feels he was betrayed and hurt due to trusting in others, so now he can only rely on his own strength. So to hear that Goku is actually overpowering him due to trusting in others drives him insane.
Jiren is essentially being betrayed for a second time. First he lost everything because his allies who he trusted failed him. Now he's about to lose everything again because his strength which he trusted failed him. Not only that, but the very thing that he swore to never trust again is supposedly empowering his opponent.
Him going insane is kinda understandable looking at it that way.
Jiren goes crazy because he feels he was betrayed and hurt due to trusting in others, so now he can only rely on his own strength. So to hear that Goku is actually overpowering him due to trusting in others drives him insane.
Jiren is essentially being betrayed for a second time. First he lost everything because his allies who he trusted failed him. Now he's about to lose everything again because his strength which he trusted failed him. Not only that, but the very thing that he swore to never trust again is supposedly empowering his opponent.
Him going insane is kinda understandable looking at it that way.
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Toppo: It's about survival
Jiren: It's about strength
Jiren: It's about strength
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I'd have to imagine that Jiren feels like a complete failure after his defeat.
First he lost because because he relied on his friends. Yet Goku managed to win because he relied on his friends.
Then he loses because he relied on his strength which wasn't enough. Yet Goku managed to win because he was stronger than Jiren.
Whether it's through friends or through strength, Jiren has lost when it was most important. Whereas this person standing before him has managed to take everything from him because of friends and strength.
I really liked Jiren's clear hesitation to defeat his superior in such a cheap fashion. However he sworn he'd do anything to make sure he never loses again and to get his wish. So he does what needs to be done, but not before granting Goku the greatest honor he could. Making sure that the warrior he's about to have erased lives on through his memories.
First he lost because because he relied on his friends. Yet Goku managed to win because he relied on his friends.
Then he loses because he relied on his strength which wasn't enough. Yet Goku managed to win because he was stronger than Jiren.
Whether it's through friends or through strength, Jiren has lost when it was most important. Whereas this person standing before him has managed to take everything from him because of friends and strength.
I really liked Jiren's clear hesitation to defeat his superior in such a cheap fashion. However he sworn he'd do anything to make sure he never loses again and to get his wish. So he does what needs to be done, but not before granting Goku the greatest honor he could. Making sure that the warrior he's about to have erased lives on through his memories.
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@AKM sama I still don't think Jiren is the best of characters, but I definitely think this episode has made him far better.
@LordWhis What do you define as "truly strong"? Android 18 was incredibly strong and one of the major heavy hitters during the Android saga, just not quite as strong as 17 but still comparable. Also if 18 not being the major threat of the entire arc makes her not strong, then Kefla isn't strong either since Jiren is the major threat of this arc.
Also did you forget who Vados is?
@LordWhis What do you define as "truly strong"? Android 18 was incredibly strong and one of the major heavy hitters during the Android saga, just not quite as strong as 17 but still comparable. Also if 18 not being the major threat of the entire arc makes her not strong, then Kefla isn't strong either since Jiren is the major threat of this arc.
Also did you forget who Vados is?
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When Frost tried to attack Frieza from out of bonds Zeno erased him on the spot, Jiren pulled that dirty move because Goku was wrecking his shit but Zeno did absolutely nothing about it, plot....
Also I am quiet hyped for Jiren vs Frieza\17 next episode, title of the MVP should goes to 17
Also I am quiet hyped for Jiren vs Frieza\17 next episode, title of the MVP should goes to 17
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Triggered UI Goku > your verse
Bloodlusted UI Goku > every verse
And amazing artwork
Bloodlusted UI Goku > every verse
And amazing artwork
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Grand Priest English Dub voice. It's a bit eh
Positives:
The calmness and humbleness in his voice
How formulates his words
Negatives
Tone. I would have liked it to be a deeper voice
In the japanese dub. while there is humbleness, there is also an overwhelming superiority from the way he talks, I can't find the former in the English Dub voice
Positives:
The calmness and humbleness in his voice
How formulates his words
Negatives
Tone. I would have liked it to be a deeper voice
In the japanese dub. while there is humbleness, there is also an overwhelming superiority from the way he talks, I can't find the former in the English Dub voice
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link?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoBgK1f0ylwUnite My Rice said:
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What a great episode. I am glad that the spoilers were lying.
I read that the show is so popular in Mexico that there would be massive public screenings of this episode:
https://torrentfreak.com/local-governments-mexico-might-pirate-dragon-ball-180316/
I hope that the movie will be shown in cinemas outside of Japan, so we do not have to wait for too long.
I read that the show is so popular in Mexico that there would be massive public screenings of this episode:
https://torrentfreak.com/local-governments-mexico-might-pirate-dragon-ball-180316/
I hope that the movie will be shown in cinemas outside of Japan, so we do not have to wait for too long.
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if like the spoilers say 30 seconds remain but jesus when goku lost MUI red shit came out and it was brutal yo RIP
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Don't forget ecuadorAntvasima said:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/DragonB...io/iframe/twitter.min.html#975213139708010496
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Despite being a cartoon, I think that this is a very manly show, that encourages the viewers to never give up, and to fight for their survival. As such, it is healthy to watch for western culture, which has been rather emasculated, my own country Sweden in particular.
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