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A higher degree of 2-B.
A higher degree of 2-B.
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Dragon Ball Super Episode 62: I'm still on a streak and Goku is likely to get jobbered again
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I meant in comparison to the Angels.
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In one of the PQ's Whis can create a clone of Jiren that is equal to strength of the original. So the angels are far above Jiren and MUI Goku.
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I made a thread about this.Royalty1702 said:
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It implies it's almost at the full strength of Jiren.
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This episode was a ride, thought goku was getting eliminated, nope, thought 17 was dead, nope.
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Not necessarily. Lets says jiren is a 10.Zenkaibattery1 said:
He first creates a jiren that is a 1, then 2, and finally he creates the last one, the closest to the real ones strength, at a 4.7. The gap is still big, but it is still the closest to the real thing. In this case, it can be either way.
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@Zenkai Doesn't actually matter. That could be hax. Anyways, it is unsure which version of Jiren that is, but it is assumed ToP Jiren [ Because he's prepping you FOR the tournament, meaning the PQ takes place before the Tournament ] , not Post-ToP Jiren. Meaning, it isn't the Jiren that had his limits broken, and it isn't a version of Jiren stronger than that [Post-ToP] .
I stated that if PQ 122 and the DLC Pack 6 was a indicator of what the Future Warrior can accomplish without Ultra Instinct , with it he should be equal, if not superior to the Angels, sans Daikinashan, as that is speculatory.
I stated that if PQ 122 and the DLC Pack 6 was a indicator of what the Future Warrior can accomplish without Ultra Instinct , with it he should be equal, if not superior to the Angels, sans Daikinashan, as that is speculatory.
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welp at least goku managed to overpower jiren at his peak so he is likely above jiren only time limit is now 1 min. Called it his limit was cut in half KEK
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welp now my neighbours and ppl in my area are questioning my fashion senses now
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How do we know he was breaking his limits rather than using his full power ? I know this, but want this to be explained so i can argue against it better.
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Some of my thoughts this episode.
- As generic as the backstory is I couldn't help but feel bad for Jiren when he told himself "I won't let that happen to me again".
- As for the fight while in my opinion it didn't really live up to the hype, but it was still really great. Besides a few small moments of wonky animation, I enjoyed it a lot.
- What was weird was I was kinda thinking that it'd be cool if a montage of past events in Dragon Ball played while Goku and Jiren were fighting. I'm happy that happened.
- Jiren's final power up was badass and I liked the fiery, hellish look that the arena had for a while after.
- I guess I was wrong about my predictions of Goku getting eliminated, but you can't blame me with how those spoilers were worded ovo
- I don't like how rushed and out of nowhere 17 popping back up was, but it was a pretty exciting and unexpected twist.
- I found it odd that the Omni-Kings and Grand Priest had nothing to say during all of this.
- Also No Limits Fallacy Instinct is over. MUI Goku got hit multiple times by Jiren.
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I don't think anyone said that Jiren was breaking his limits at the time.
Also I don't think Jiren is Angel level, nor is FW2 (although he would be hella OP with UI]
I don't think anyone said that Jiren was breaking his limits at the time.
Also I don't think Jiren is Angel level, nor is FW2 (although he would be hella OP with UI]
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YES, at the beggining, universe 1 Supreme Kai already stated that jiren was at full power when he commented on how goku would do against FP jiren. Then jiren went all UI, which was confirmed to be because of goku smashing his ass into pieces and remembering his trauma. And the fact that the preview for this episode stated that both jiren and goku were going to break their limits.
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False equivalence, Jiren can hit even Irrelevant speed.Ryukama said:
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Those are always vague when it comes to power. They can't outright state who is stronger. Oh and btw, the literal translation is "it's beyond me..." so might wasn't use, but might is added because apperantly it was written in a way of uncertainty (hence the "...")Jobbo said:
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best animation
everything else is meh
everything else is meh
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There's no rule against killing spectators though lolRyukama said:
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Man hit out of litterally nowhe would be actually badass man do not count my man hit out just yet he still in this fight ovo.
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This episode was lit Didn't surprise me when 17 popped out i already expected that
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SO umm, I feel bad for jiren, but only because this episode showed me that jiren is a mentally ill person... I'm not joking there. He is traumatized by the death of his family and he was going to kill the people on universe 7 just to take away what goku cares about.
Jiren is mentally unstable and I like that for some reason
Jiren is mentally unstable and I like that for some reason
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Next episode is gonna have even more quality
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And one more thing, I don't think Jiren attacking the stands was a mindless act by a mindless villain.
I thought Jiren was trying to convey his message to Goku that friendship and trust doesn't matter at all. He said "Such things can be erased easily" while attacking, like what happened with his family and friends when he was little. That was some deep shit by DB standards.
I thought Jiren was trying to convey his message to Goku that friendship and trust doesn't matter at all. He said "Such things can be erased easily" while attacking, like what happened with his family and friends when he was little. That was some deep shit by DB standards.
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I don't think it was mindless, or that he is a villian, I just think he is mentally ill, as in he needs help. He clearly shows signs of it all through out this episode. His parents dying, friends and even his master must have been the trigger for it.AKM sama said:
And also, part of what you said as well.
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