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I literally got SSJ Broly on my first summon of 1000 crystalsHizack123 said:
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 73
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I just got and leveled Future Maifu and Future Gohan to 2000. They are OP used right.
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I have two Z Tiers
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By the way it made $7.03M on the opening day which is more than 3.5x RoF's openeing day and just $1 million short of RoF's total run in US.
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Gogeta managed to dodge most of SSJ Broly's bloodlusted blasts and deflect the rest of them even when in Base, while SSB Goku and Vegeta had their combined power cancelled out by Broly's attacks.
I think Gogeta is pretty clearly meant to be above both of his fusees even in base.
I think Gogeta is pretty clearly meant to be above both of his fusees even in base.
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To be fair Basee Gogeta didn't really do anything Blue Goku or Vegeta didn't, since Goku managed to deflect a barrage of ki blasts on his own and both Vegeta and he were at least able to dodge And counterattack Broly for a bit even if they did no real damage. Meanwhile with Goatgeta he just acted cocky and dodged a bit in base before go ssj.
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It's pretty much indicated in both the manga and movie that a base fusion is stronger than the max power of the sum of its parts. In the manga, while Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Goku was able to fight toe to toe with Zamasu, Base Vegito was able to casually blast part of his torso off.
It's pretty much indicated in both the manga and movie that a base fusion is stronger than the max power of the sum of its parts. In the manga, while Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Goku was able to fight toe to toe with Zamasu, Base Vegito was able to casually blast part of his torso off.
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I know this is really random, but is anyone gonna bring up these feats? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_OHIuVyoWY&t=194s (at 1:36 and 2:26)
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Video was taken down, but I'm guessing you're referring to where they were (SPOILER) seemingly shattering dimensional barriers. Emphasis on "seemingly".GokuSparkle said:
I'm not sure what to make of it, but it looked ******* cool.
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Yeah I'm with Ultima, just getting beat up by Broly shouldn't make him Low 2-C.
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Dude, he got a beatdown for an hour straight.Matthew Schroeder said:
It's clearly Low 2-C.
He wouldn't be able to survive if he wasn't somewhat comparable.
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No no. I understand. Frieza taking on a monster, that can stomp Low 2-Cs effortlessly, for an hour isn't worthy of Low 2-C scaling. Frieza taking Low 2-C punches, kicks, energy blasts and more for over an hour isn't worth scaling to Low 2-C.
Frieza isn't Low 2-C via scaling because he got ragdolled by a monster, that could ragdoll Low 2-Cs with extreme ease, for over an hour. Never mind that his transformation into Golden could push Broly (who had his heels digged into the ground) by a dozen meters and cause Broly (somebody who curbstomped two Low 2-Cs at the same time) to become visibly shocked.
Frieza isn't Low 2-C via scaling because he got ragdolled by a monster, that could ragdoll Low 2-Cs with extreme ease, for over an hour. Never mind that his transformation into Golden could push Broly (who had his heels digged into the ground) by a dozen meters and cause Broly (somebody who curbstomped two Low 2-Cs at the same time) to become visibly shocked.
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i bet it'll be full AFBlackeJan said:
Also frieza seemed to get beaten up for comic relief of the fusions. Considering he never even damaged broly
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Golden Frieza got beat up for a full minute and not even a few moments later he's completely fine.
Also Planet Vegeta got reduced to tiny particles in mere seconds. Most of it happened off-screen tho. That's the canon version now.
I watched the movie, BTW. It was ******* awesome.
Also Planet Vegeta got reduced to tiny particles in mere seconds. Most of it happened off-screen tho. That's the canon version now.
I watched the movie, BTW. It was ******* awesome.
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Tanking the attacks for an hour of a bloodlusted Low 2-C who can already curb other Low 2-Cs. If it wasnt a straight hour I could agree with you, but dude, the guy wasnt oneshoted and survived.Matthew Schroeder said:
He should scale. Its more legit than UI omen first trigger scaling to Low 2-C for barely lasting seconds against a highly surppressed casual Jiren.
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To compare. Casual Jiren could one-shot an enraged Golden Frieza (albeit just a few minutes after he was crushed by Toppo) and it's blatant that SS Broly is much MUCH stronger than that.
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Actually from what I heard Frieza actually survived a beating from Broly for 3 hours. Since Goku and Vegeta failed Fusion Dance twice so they had to wait 60 minutes. And you still have to add the Fusion Dance cool down twice which totals up to 2 hours. So Frieza technically survived a beating from Broly for 3 hours straight unless the fusion cool down thing got retconned.
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Not sure where you heard that from. I have watched the movie and gone over the novel (albeit with google translate so it's obviously inaccurate) and both sources explicitly mention the fusion lasting half an hour each time. It also specifically says at the end of Frieza's fight against Broly that his ability to last over an hour against him was worthy of his title as Emperor of the Universe.
Speaking of novel. It mentions that Golden Frieza can budge Broly's body with his attacks (this is after over half an hour of fighting) but his attacks were doing no damage. Goku and Vegeta are depicted as managing to budge Broly with a combined kick to the back against SS Broly but the one Frieza was fighting was most likely stronger than that.
I wish I could translate it properly because the dimension feat sounds interesting. Google translate is pretty crap but it's somewhat accurate...So I guess I should at least mention it.
It describes SS Gogeta and SS Broly's energy as being so powerful that it like...surpassed or broke the boundaries of the universe which transported them to that other dimension. When Broly slams Gogeta around and we see more reality shattering it describes it as something like Broly smashing Gogeta against the walls of space. When they exit the dimension it's described as them 'crumbling' the dimension.
But yeah, google translate is trash. We need proper translations from someone who actually knows how to read japanese.
Speaking of novel. It mentions that Golden Frieza can budge Broly's body with his attacks (this is after over half an hour of fighting) but his attacks were doing no damage. Goku and Vegeta are depicted as managing to budge Broly with a combined kick to the back against SS Broly but the one Frieza was fighting was most likely stronger than that.
I wish I could translate it properly because the dimension feat sounds interesting. Google translate is pretty crap but it's somewhat accurate...So I guess I should at least mention it.
It describes SS Gogeta and SS Broly's energy as being so powerful that it like...surpassed or broke the boundaries of the universe which transported them to that other dimension. When Broly slams Gogeta around and we see more reality shattering it describes it as something like Broly smashing Gogeta against the walls of space. When they exit the dimension it's described as them 'crumbling' the dimension.
But yeah, google translate is trash. We need proper translations from someone who actually knows how to read japanese.
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Oh my god, the movie was so amazing! That's all I have to say.
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Surpassed the boundaries of the universe = 5-D
just kidding but with the right words maybe
just kidding but with the right words maybe
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If everything goes right, I'm going to see the movie in like an hour.
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From that description, It seems Gogeta and Broly just litteraly ascended to a highter plane while fighting and destroyed said plane, so at the very least, they physicaly went and destroyed a 4D plane and possibly (i'd say probably) a 5D plane since we already saw that ki could affect 4D stuff while the characters themself kept being 3 dimensional in nature.
Would need a better / credible translation to be sure though.
Would need a better / credible translation to be sure though.
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Dragonball characters being actually 4D or 5D is both hilarious and something i would really enjoy
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Imagine if Super characters became stronger than Heroes.
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