Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 43

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Hmmmm....Seems familiar......

 

[FateAlbane]

Still searching for any f---- to give... But I got a 404 error.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That was 17's whole thing this episode. ovo

 

[Ssr4vegito]

If Dyspo can fight Hit i want a profile on 3-A City Monster too

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Does the excuse that Hit is forced to hold back still apply?

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Does the excuse that Hit is forced to hold back still apply?

I think it will since the spoilers I read describe dyspo defeating hits time skip rather than Hit himself.

 

[DodoNova2]

Still searching for any f---- to give... But I got a 404 error.

hahahaha

 

[Shock97]

You know based on those spoilers IF all went well, the "pure" speed feat drought could end in episode 104. Even now everyone except Beerus and Whis only have 2 or 3 to share between through the series XD.

 

[Hit_The_Badass]

have a theory.

What if Dyspo is using light bullets to block time skip technique? Not allowing Hit to use his technique and Hit is actually struggling to use his technique rather the fight?

Thoughts?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Zamasu must be turning in his nonexistent grave...

 

[SuperDragoon978]

Going by the episode 104 spoilers Goku will be going Super Saiyan God against Dyspo. That might just mean SSB but if it doesn't that would debunk the two base theory. Does that mean people like Frost and Cabba will get upgraded to 3-A?

The same spoilers say that Dyspo's bullets of light will attack Hit and he can't dodge them. less than faster than light Hit? That doesn't even make any sense so that might be PIS.

 

[Megamangohan]

From this episode alone, 17 may become my second favorite character in the entire series.

 

[Dark649]

Does that mean people like Frost and Cabba will get upgraded to 3-A?

Yes as the future revision is also aiming at that and Magetta clashed with Toppo.

 

[FTW395]

The same spoilers say that Dyspo's bullets of light will attack Hit and he can't dodge them. less than faster than light Hit? That doesn't even make any sense so that might be PIS.

Called it

 

[Ryukama]

Yes as the future revision is also aiming at that and Magetta clashed with Toppo.

I'm sorry but with all due respect between 3-A humans and this do you not know what an outlier or PIS is?

Even if we're making Magetta 3-A, he had some difficulty against SSJ Vegeta. There's no way he should be at all comparable to a SSB, maybe even SSB Kaioken Goku level opponent. It's either outlier/PIS or you can use the headcanon that Toppo held back to not kill.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Rip gowasu, goon too soon, you never got to become a godtuber

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Rip gowasu, goon too soon, you never got to become a godtuber

That's the greatest crime here. Ovo

 

[FateAlbane]

Gowasu lost the will to live along with Zamasu's tea.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

R.I.P GodTube King....Let's have a moment of silence.

 

[Golden_Void]

Even if we're making Magetta 3-A, he had some difficulty against SSJ Vegeta. There's no way he should be at all comparable to a SSB, maybe even SSB Kaioken Goku level opponent. It's either outlier/PIS or you can use the headcanon that Toppo held back to not kill.

Goku and Vegeta are universal in base tho. :^) (Applies several layers of "holding back" to shield my argument)

Come at me bro.

Also Gowasu should've just gotten a Zamasu from another timeline. ):

 

[Ryukama]

I never argued against 3-A base. I'm just saying Magetta clearly doesn't scale to Toppo, even if he were 3-A.

 

[Vegan_Gains]

If Goku does transform into a Super Saiyan God, does that not retcon the universal base form ?

 

[Nibbler3100]

I'm pretty sure it does yeah it makes sense though since that whole scene' where Base Goku was fighting Beerus and destroyed the orb of energy screams PIS

 

[Dark649]

There was some mistakes in the past like the Void that erases fighters and the fusion between Brianne and her partners. Goku might go Blue, but i'm not sure.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I wonder what a U6/U7 Saiyan hybrid would be like.

 

[Golden_Void]

If Goku does transform into a Super Saiyan God, does that not retcon the universal base form ?

Goku already absorbed that power into himself, I think simply using the form would be a multiplier with the benefits of SSG (healing factor, etc).

Alternatively since god ki = perfect ki control, then SSG would just be base form with ki control. We'll have to see how that episode plays out.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

I wonder what a U6/U7 Saiyan hybrid would be like.

Would have infinte potential and will be the God of asspulls

 

[Golden_Void]

If any U7 Saiyan had a child with Caulifla, the spawn would spite Beerus while it's still in the womb.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

There are fans who ship Goku and Caulifla

 

[Vegan_Gains]

If Goku does transform into a Super Saiyan God, does that not retcon the universal base form ?

Goku already absorbed that power into himself, I think simply using the form would be a multiplier with the benefits of SSG (healing factor, etc).
Alternatively since god ki = perfect ki control, then SSG would just be base form with ki control. We'll have to see how that episode plays out.

It could end up working like that, but Toei are a cockfest of morons, who can barely write a good story, good ideas but poor executions, so I think if Goku does go SSG, his godly base form is retconned, although it would explain alot, as since anyone fighting Goku base is equal to, or above SSG level, based on the explanation given to us earlier.

 

[Dark649]

If the writers contraddicts themself in that episode and later episodes, then the only thing i can help is my blog and the other Admins will check it on order to deal about the Post Tournament Revision and the Speed Revision.

 

[Hit_The_Badass]

There are fans who ship Goku and Caulifla

I rather ship Caulifla with Kale instead of Goku.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

If Goku does transform into a Super Saiyan God, does that not retcon the universal base form ?

Goku already absorbed that power into himself, I think simply using the form would be a multiplier with the benefits of SSG (healing factor, etc).
Alternatively since god ki = perfect ki control, then SSG would just be base form with ki control. We'll have to see how that episode plays out.

It could end up working like that, but Toei are a cockfest of morons, who can barely write a good story, good ideas but poor executions, so I think if Goku does go SSG, his godly base form is retconned, although it would explain alot, as since anyone fighting Goku base is equal to, or above SSG level, based on the explanation given to us earlier.

To me Sayain Beyond God was retconned after the ROF arc. They used the movies material and after that Goku's Base got to be 4B in many cases. Even without Godly Base his normal one is pretty strong. SSG being back is better for the power levels scaling.

 

[Dark649]

Retcon or not the informations about that episode tells that: Superhuman City Monster Aragney < SOL Dyspo < MFTL+ Hit, which i dislike.

 

[FTW395]

Retcon or not the informations about that episode tells that: Superhuman City Monster Aragney < FTL Dyspo < MFTL+ Hit, which i dislike.

Doesn't it say Lightspeed Dyspo > "MFTL+ Hit"

 

[Huesito88]

Isn't that a aoe fallacy? Never mind

 

[Dark649]

Doesn't it say Lightspeed Dyspo > "MFTL+ Hit"

Fixed.

 

[Jinx666]

Wait

Why is Goku 4-B in most of his tiers when Zangya is 4-A

Were the movie pages not included in the scaling?

 

[The_Everlasting]

It's the movies. They scale to different feats.

 

[Shock97]

Retcon or not the informations about that episode tells that: Superhuman City Monster Aragney < FTL Dyspo < MFTL+ Hit, which i dislike.

Doesn't it say Lightspeed Dyspo > "MFTL+ Hit"

Incoming more power level embarrasment in less than two weeks.