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Y'all remember the 500 posts limit from the old wiki? Man that was so dumb.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Stupid but thank god it isn't here.
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Zeno not resisting hakai is one of the craziest things on the wiki regarding db.
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Sometimes Dragon Ball is treated with more scrutiny than other stories, but I get why staff is so iffy about it. If we want to find a culprit, there's a bunch of weird, old upgrade attempts to blame for that.Nah bro, clearly that one finger flick pebble sized Hakai that Toppo used on Sphere of Destruction could one-shot Limit Breaker Jiren, Jiren's never actually been seen resisting it before so it must be true!
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DB is also quite the time-enduring verse, with all manner of retcons and stuff. It can also be a bit inconsistent narratively, as Toriyama himself has admitted forgetting bunch of details.
So it makes sense to try and cover every base.
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Thread 'Crimson-Masked Saiyan VS Super Silver' https://vsbattles.com/threads/crimson-masked-saiyan-vs-super-silver.151730/
Omega back at it again not knowing anything about Heros and blindly assuming the Sonic character wins
Omega back at it again not knowing anything about Heros and blindly assuming the Sonic character wins
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Was the new chapter posted here? Ain't no one been talking about it. https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-91/chapter/26474?action=read
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Haven't seen anything yet lol
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So wait am I out of the loop and just didn't know, because 21 literally shows up in a manga panel 
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This saga is terrible, I think I'm the only one who isn't enjoying it very much, they should launch a new saga, like Black Freeza, I'm crazy to see him fight Beerus
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It appeared in the movie too, bro, but according to them it's not Android 21So wait am I out of the loop and just didn't know, because 21 literally shows up in a manga panel
For me, everything leads to believe that they will reach the point of making canon DBH and DBXV
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I realize that the chapter has been out for a while and I just didn't realize it, I was still waiting for it lol. Anyways I agree tbh. It's basically a carbon copy of Super Hero but with a bit of extra scenes. Kind of a waste of time tbh, but hopefully we get good statements.
I agree that it's kind of annoying how much Black Frieza's arc is being delayed, but I guess we just need to be patient. I'm hoping he actually makes Beerus struggle a little, and that it isn't yet another "Beerus was just holding back, he's still many leagues above Black Frieza" kind of thing. That is getting SO ******* repetitive.
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Watch, when Black Frieza has his main battle going on, he's gonna say something like "Previously, I was capable of destroying planets, NOW, I CAN EVEN DESTROY THE VERY STARS!". Sounds like the DBS manga.
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I hope it has a lot of quotes to level up the multiverse even more, I'm holding on to go there and give Toyotaro a good shake, lol, have you thought about Beerus and Freeza fighting throughout the universe and destroying various planets and galaxies?
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But having a character transform and shake the stars is kinda raw ngl.
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I'm passionate about feats of destruction, I've read a bit of the Dragon Ball kakumei manga the destruction and the accomplishments are incredible, I wish the manga had that art and the accomplishments
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I doubt it would go into a galactic or multi-galactic scale (in a visible sense I mean) because Dragon Ball just doesn't do that, but I could certainly see them flying around and destroying planets unintentionally like Beerus Vs. Champa.
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I cannot wait for this thread to last 5 pages despite it being a stomp.
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I don't doubt it much, Omega is all day talking lol
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**** it I'm not gonna keep arguing against semantics
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So we just let him have his way?
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Its gonna get closed blud
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How do you know?
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Because I requested it
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Omega did this with Trunks vs Silver. He thought Silver stomped even with the keysword because he had no idea how Heros worked.
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All this Sonic vs SDBH stuff really has me thinking about how Causality Manipulation for altering things across time/history works.
Characters whose abilities work across all of time, past, present, and future: some have Causality Manipulation, others just have Temporal range.
Characters stated to have directly altered history: Once again, some have Causality Manipulation and others just have Reality/Space/Time Manipulation.
Maybe some profiles don't explain the context well or maybe they were just accepted at a time with different standards and would be changed if a CRT were made but IDK, I almost want someone to make a thread to review feats/statements like this but that sounds like a pain.
Characters whose abilities work across all of time, past, present, and future: some have Causality Manipulation, others just have Temporal range.
Characters stated to have directly altered history: Once again, some have Causality Manipulation and others just have Reality/Space/Time Manipulation.
Maybe some profiles don't explain the context well or maybe they were just accepted at a time with different standards and would be changed if a CRT were made but IDK, I almost want someone to make a thread to review feats/statements like this but that sounds like a pain.
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Lmao the last (DBH) Trunks vs Silver thread.
The moment the Keysword was involved it was a stomp from the beginning, no one just realized just how absurdly busted the damn thing is
Anyways I've been gone for like, a few days, apparently there's a new thread to share the macrocosm between DBGT and DBS? What's up with that?
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Its primarily to upgrade the living world to High 3-A but it involves a shared macrocosm between Toei DB and DBS
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Logically yes but its Dragon Ball so temper your expectations
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2-C BoG
Also if that chestnut gets accepted, assuming it's the same cosmology as the GT one which iirc is 3 universes per macrocosm, ToP high tiers would be 6 Universe 2-Cs via Jiren being stronger than 3 GoDs clashing and 2 GoDs being able to destroy 2 macrocosms if they fight.
Also if that chestnut gets accepted, assuming it's the same cosmology as the GT one which iirc is 3 universes per macrocosm, ToP high tiers would be 6 Universe 2-Cs via Jiren being stronger than 3 GoDs clashing and 2 GoDs being able to destroy 2 macrocosms if they fight.
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Oh **** I didn't even consider that2-C BoG
Also if that chestnut gets accepted, assuming it's the same cosmology as the GT one which iirc is 3 universes per macrocosm, ToP high tiers would be 6 Universe 2-Cs via Jiren being stronger than 3 GoDs clashing and 2 GoDs being able to destroy 2 macrocosms if they fight.
Yes the other universes should have their own Other World and Kaioshin Realm
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2-C 3 universes and infinite speed starting from BoG and 6 universes from ToP onward
Years ago people would've called you insane
Years ago people would've called you insane
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Either way, that speed rating we have on the profiles is going to get nixed since it's based on how large the DB living world is. Since the size of the universe itself changed the calc we use will no longer be valid. We either get Infinite speed DBS (which is a whole nother can of worms) or we just upscale from Z?? Idk.
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Shared macrocosm not shared everything lol
Although if DB managed to get Class P from Toei DB that would be based
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I meant Z Manga. I'm well aware Toei feats don't belong in Super lmao.
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At that point infinite speed is the significantly more viable option because DBS speed is supposed to be based on the speed of the shockwave that crossed the living realm and threatened to destroy the entire macrocosm
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Infinite speed DBS does bring some issues, or potential upgrades, lmao. Hit's Time Skip (treated as Time Stop in this wiki) would be capable of stopping someone moving at Infinite speed which is insane. Jiren would be capable of breaking through multi-layered Time Stop which even in it's first layer can stop someone at Infinite speed which is far beyond what a baseline Time Stop can do
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Infinite speed DBS does bring some issues, or potential upgrades, lmao. Hit's Time Skip (treated as Time Stop in this wiki) would be capable of stopping someone moving at Infinite speed which is insane. Jiren would be capable of breaking through multi-layered Time Stop which even in it's first layer can stop someone at Infinite speed which is far beyond what a baseline Time Stop can do
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