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.... I don't think it being restricted to technique and hax/skill is accepted hereHis RPL is strictly limited to his technique/hax and skill and not power. That was emphasized in U6 vs U7 tournament
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.... I don't think it being restricted to technique and hax/skill is accepted hereHis RPL is strictly limited to his technique/hax and skill and not power. That was emphasized in U6 vs U7 tournament
Never once is it implied that he's holding back. Plus Dyspo being able to interrupt his time manipulation at the beginning of the fight gives him incentive to not hold backNo because Hit was probably holding back or conserving stamina. Hit later went on to fight Jiren who sandbagged himself to the same level as when he fought 20x Kaioken Blue Goku and put up a better fight then the latter.
No it isn'tHis RPL is strictly limited to his technique/hax and skill and not power. That was emphasized in U6 vs U7 tournament
Okay. One of many. The English sub's were unfortunately all taken down. I will not waste any more time on this. This is common knowledge. His RPL makes his hax stronger. It even became layered as a result. ( Though I think it isn't accept on this wiki as such)No it isn't
His AD made him go from getting stomped by SSBKKx10 Goku to being able to fight on par with him
Common knowledge yet it isn't accepted on his profile here and if I were to ask a random person regarding Hit AD they'd be going about the Goku Black and Hit debate regarding their AD and comparing it. It's not really common knowledge then.Okay. One of many. The English sub's were unfortunately all taken down. I will not waste any more time on this. This is common knowledge.
If you read the actual CRT 75% of the people only agreed to it only refering to his fighting skills. The person who made the edits just wrote it without the other's consent. If one were to be picky, they could easily have it removed but no one cares.Common knowledge yet it isn't accepted on his profile here
You can try to to make a CRT and get it accepted but there is a reason why this isn't considered in the first place so indirectly my point is accepted.Potential upgrade
SSG Goku during the Dyspo fight was treated as comparable to Hit, who is at least as strong as SSB Goku post-Future Trunks arc, who is at least 4.9 sextillion c
This means pre-UIO1 SSB Goku during the ToP should be at least 245 sextillion c (50 times 4.9 sextillion)
So every speed rating from pre-UIO1 SSB Goku and onward should be multiplied by 50
Because it doesn't change the fact that Hit possesses AD and in terms of evolution speed it is comparable to Black's.if I were to ask a random person regarding Hit AD they'd be going about the Goku Black and Hit debate regard their AD and comparing it. It's not really common knowledge then.
Not too sure about this, given that he has to overcome a 10x AP/Dura gap to deal damage to SSBKK Goku. Maybe just dura negg?Okay. One of many. The English sub's were unfortunately all taken down. I will not waste any more time on this. This is common knowledge. His RPL makes his hax stronger. It even became layered as a result. ( Though I think it isn't accept on this wiki as such)
Yes he has durability negation. He can target vital points with his Phoenix eye fist by focusing all his energy in that strike. It's similar to Neji's chakra point disable.Not too sure about this, given that he has to overcome a 10x AP/Dura gap to deal damage to SSBKK Goku. Maybe just dura negg?
Content revision thread. You can make proposal for upgrades with them. Well maybe it gets accepted. I wouldn't mind as a Hit fan boy hahahaIf that's the case sure (though I have no clue where that crt is)
Tbh it's just my headcanon. But I guess it somewhat applies. During the fight U6 arc Goku's body is already twitching before he fired the x10 Kamehameha, so his body is already getting unstable. During the Namek arc Krillin mentions Goku's ki is dropping after Goku used Kaioken x20. During the Saiyan Saga after Goku used Kaioken x4 even a friendly slap from Yajirobe hurt him badly. So since his base power is dropping, and Kaioken just multiplies your base power level. There's some evidence that it made him weaker over time.I don't recall the Kaio-ken losing power as it goes, only stamina being drained and the body getting hurt though that's only If used for long extended periods of time.
I think so too, I'm getting a little crazy with this, it's so topical.Imma keep it real with you fellas, if I have to read another 7 page long thread full of pedantic arguments Imma lose my mind. Even if it's a buff, I'm tired boss
Hehehe, who is this?I am predicting that LuffyRuffy and his crew will attempt to become Staff members next so they can make DB 1-A. The longterm planning deserves respect.
Btw. Godly Charmander who is banned, came out of nowhere to stop the upgrade.
I think if I manage to update the DB to infinity, I'll take a long-term vacation, this here is tiring, but I wanted to be an admin or moderator, it's always been my dream to help here.I am predicting that LuffyRuffy and his crew will attempt to become Staff members next so they can make DB 1-A. The longterm planning deserves respect.
Btw. Godly Charmander who is banned, came out of nowhere to stop the upgrade.
I haveDoes anyone have the scan from Shueisha with GT being part of the Super timeline ( only BoG was included )?
Does anyone have the scan from Shueisha with GT being part of the Super timeline ( only BoG was included )?
took changing the way vswiki treats 2-C to make DBS 2-C lmaoWait, 2-C DBS got accepted? When did that happen lmao.
That's what happens when everyone needs to have the last word.I posted in that infinite universe thread, like, three hours ago, and two pages have been added to the discussion.
Tbf, fiction do be wack sometimesI know it's pointless to talk about it but good god are the ratings on some of these profiles a textbook, perfect example of how illogical Vs. Battles Wiki's rules can be. By that I'm referring to the way that the wiki will literally ONLY consider face-value, blatant evidence rather than dabbling in even the slightest bit of what it would call "speculation". Jiren not having existence erasure resistance was a topic of long debate that ended without him even getting a possibly for it despite the sheer absurdity of it and the contradictions of narrative implications derived from that, because according to the wiki, if it isn't outright stated or shown, it can't be considered evidence in any form.
In this particular case, Goku going from 3-A to 2-C by transforming is so ******* silly I can't describe it with words. We are literally saying that SSJB can make Goku multiple infinities stronger than his base form. If I said that in any context other than trolling someone, I would literally feel embarrassed about it.
I see some memes on YouTube from some admins and they make endless memes lolAnd people here sometimes still ask why Vs. Battles Wiki is often mocked by the majority of the powerscaling community. That right there is the very reason why. Because it's often that the pages are wildly inaccurate to the point of blatant absurdity based on this weird interpretation of what can be considered valid evidence and what can't.
While I agree with the point,And people here sometimes still ask why Vs. Battles Wiki is often mocked by the majority of the powerscaling community. That right there is the very reason why. Because it's often that the pages are wildly inaccurate to the point of blatant absurdity based on this weird interpretation of what can be considered valid evidence and what can't.
Goku getting multiple infinities stronger by changing his hair blue and Toppo being able to beat Jiren despite the series exclusively, explicitly, blatantly, and repeatedly suggesting it is the other way around are objectively incorrect things and reaches the point of simple lunacy. It's kind of similar to a YouTube commenter saying that the Doomslayer or Kratos is outerversal because they are a troll who wants to be seen as having "different takes" from everyone else (a contrarian if you will). Everyone knows it isn't true, and it isn't, but it will still be argued anyways in spite of that fact.While I agree with the point,
Consider that quite simply, every community has their own standards. Even ones not strictly dedicated to power scaling. We can consider them stupid, illogical or whatever, but at the end of the day, is completely subjective anyways.
So it doesn't matter that they laugh at us. We in turn laugh at Mythbusters for saying star wars blasters are below a fast ball in speed.
It goes on and on.
Fiction momentIn this particular case, Goku going from 3-A to 2-C by transforming is so ******* silly I can't describe it with words. We are literally saying that SSJB can make Goku multiple infinities stronger than his base form. If I said that in any context other than trolling someone, I would literally feel embarrassed about it.
Not suggesting otherwise. Just contributing with my own point of view.I'm just giving criticism, people can take that criticism as they will, but what I'm saying is not an insult. I am apart of this very community and have been here for several years, which is WHY I have a problem with this. Because as someone apart of Vs. Battles Wiki, I WOULD like for it to be better.
This reply isn't directed at you but more so the idea of Goku getting that much stronger with SSJB: The series quite literally shows us that it is a finite increase of power, an increase that consistently cannot make up the gap between base Goku and another character. Unless we're also saying that said characters are holding back by multiple degrees of infinity against base Goku and just using multiple degrees of infinity more power than normally, I don't see how that is reasonable at all.Fiction moment
I can't see jiren losing to toppo under any circumstances hahaha! but on the wiki it works like this...Goku getting multiple infinities stronger by changing his hair blue and Toppo being able to beat Jiren despite the series exclusively, explicitly, blatantly, and repeatedly suggesting it is the other way around are objectively incorrect things and reaches the point of simple lunacy. It's kind of similar to a YouTube commenter saying that the Doomslayer or Kratos is outerversal because they are a troll who wants to be seen as having "different takes" from everyone else (a contrarian if you will). Everyone knows it isn't true, and it isn't, but it will still be argued anyways in spite of that fact.
I'm just giving criticism, people can take that criticism as they will, but what I'm saying is not an insult. I am apart of this very community and have been here for several years, which is WHY I have a problem with this. Because as someone apart of Vs. Battles Wiki, I WOULD like for it to be better.
Exactly. It is a simple fact, not an opinion, that Toppo under NO CIRCUMSTANCES could ever even DREAM of beating Jiren in a fair match. Not even with God of Destruction aura. Anyone who has watched the ToP arc can understand that if they possess even the fundamentals of understanding story telling and narrative tropes. Even an 8 year old can grasp this. But according to the wiki, "no proof so wrong xd".I can't see jiren losing to toppo under any circumstances hahaha! but on the wiki it works like this...