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Cell is not his genetic duplicate and I don't remember what his transfer of immortality is based on, Piccolo is the incarnation of Piccolo King who put his entire existence in that egg to be reborn.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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That's literally the same infinite galaxy means an infinite universe
Plus that scan was used for infinite universe
That's crazy to me, denying an actual outright statement.
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Honestly very far-fetched.
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Cell has Piccolo’s total genetic code in his body, and we know Piccolo inherited it as his Reincarnation (Daizenshuu 2), but we don’t know if Cell did for sure, HENCE the “possibly” rating.
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I ended up forgetting that Piccolo has eternal youth
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Hyperbole, poetry, that was the argument.
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Yes, I understand that but we continue with the same topic, when Piccolo King gave birth to the egg he put his entire existence into it, Cell not only has Piccolo's cells but also those of Goku, Frieza, Vegeta, etc. They are not the same beings. and as we know, Cell gets tired when fighting unlike androids.
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He has it but Cell has no reason to have it.
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Like I said, though, the incongruity in data available means it straight up cannot be referring to SPC, even if he was validated.
I don’t think Cell’s output should be heightened. I just want to clarify what 16 meant at that moment.
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Tbh I do think the Infinite Galaxies thing to be legit. The "contradictions" aren't really contradictions and are simply the result of authors not knowing the magnitudes of their tiers, like Goku used to become from 3-A to Low 2-C with just a x50 multiplier back in the days.
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So does Piccolo. Eternal Youth does not afford him infinite stamina. Just immunity to aging.
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What I tried to imply is that Cell does not have all the abilities of the beings that make him up and since there is no evidence or even allusion to Cell having type 1 immortality, it should be erased.
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To hundreds of quotes stating about infinite galaxies in guides, directors mentioning, although super uses an "incalculable number of galaxies like these"i don't think Bulma's word would refute the Universe being infinite, Jaco even refutes her about there not being something like that and saying it's impossible, in addition to Sheilong himself mentioning that he cannot find the super spheres because he has a very vast Universe.
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Powerscalers when they get reminded that Infinite speed characters move from the beginning to the end of an infinite distance:
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Well, next time look for those statements from the manga/anime/guides to prove that it really is infinite.
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I mean, most of the statements straight up come from guides, with Jaco’s being straight from the Anime and Manga.
Edit: The only contradiction is Bulma, whose assessment was literally never verified.
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on which platform?
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This is the second time you agree with mePowerscalers when they get reminded that Infinite speed characters move from the beginning to the end of an infinite distance:
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Exactly, i think someone will soon create a crt for the Universe to be infinite, i myself don't want to lose my head with another cosmology update.
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This straight up isn’t true, though. He has access to all their abilities (and genetic potential for abilities) through their DNA. The Kamehameha, Spirit Bomb, Super Saiyan, Death Beam, Psychokinesis, 3rd Grade, etc. Everything they are, he is.
The Anime makes this more clear by having him use the Multiform, the Tri-Beam, Special Beam Cannon, Galick Gun, etc.
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I mean, the 48 minutes thing isn't exactly an argument either, as not even with MFTL+ speed they'd care of it. Do I need to remind you that the MFTL+ Jojo characters consider Time Stops/Skips of 10 seconds to be a big deal?
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We have plenty of evidence for this, including anime and guides, also a screenwriter, but that's worthless when people think it's hyperbole or poems, lol.
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999 pages. Damn
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Ironically, Dragon Ball (while still suffering this issue, given .1 seconds of Time Frozen would still be an eternity for someone MFTL+), plays with this concept a lot closer to powerscaler assumptions. It’s directly mentioned to be “super short, but more than enough time for someone fast.” And then the reason it gets more powerful is the literal extension of time frozen, giving Hit more actions to take and hit you with.
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Remembering that it was a JoJo fan who said that, since we literally have something like that in his verse, lol
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Yes, abilities that they themselves developed, abilities of the races, etc. but we are talking about a wish to Shen Long that was wished by Piccolo King who transferred it to himself by giving his entire existence to the egg that he gave birth to. I'm not referring to the anime, I'm not aware of that and you may be right that there is more evidence about it but since many things that could have served in favor of your theory were discarded such as Luffy's last thread or the fact that the ki is soul manipulation (Cell supposedly has Goku's ki which would be his existence, soul, etc.) it is not that the MFTL+ for Cell or a larger scale to a large star or solar system cannot be ruled out.
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Hypersonic+ doing that overtime? especially as DBZ has nothing observable and unobservable regions? Very unlikely to be the case tbh
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again, hard as it would be, it wouldn't be impossible, giving that by the end of it all he was Solar System level.......it wouldn't really be hard as you are implying all things considered
given his possible eternal youth from piccolo he possibly inherited(as pointed by null) we can't really discard it
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Cell could just teleport like Buu
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Cell becoming solar system after how Zenkai has ko bearing on when they statement was made, not sure why you brought it up
Considering how impossible it would be for a guy just 40+ above baseline Solar solar system to reach even the next galaxies without having MFTL+ speeds to close the gap? (The next major galaxy, Andromeda is basically 2 million light years away) unlikely and FURTHERMORE he wasn't an SS buster when tjr statement was made
The only way it wouldn't be hard is if he's fast enough to reach those stars, his AP alone isn't doing squat
This was after he became super perfect cell
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There is nothing accepted on this wiki that justifies Cell's "possible type 1 immortality"
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even without type 1 immortality(which he has, and has no reason nor debunk to say he didn't had) how can you know he would be dead? can you prove his life span?
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piccolo has it, cell should since he has his cells as part of him, also he says himself that he can't die
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Than Cell being able to destroy the universe makes no sense. He doesn't have infinite energy and the AP to destroy one solar-system. He would be gassed out after one full powered Ki attack.
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Is there any evidence that he has it besides having the cells of a being that was granted to him for literally being the incarnation of his previous self? Besides the fact that it is a "possible" it is not confirmed, when this thread you can try to argue against it.
If you want to go for the Limitless fallacies, no, I have no way to prove it but the longest living beings of which Cell has cells are the Namekians who live hundreds of years... and the nearest star is 4 light years away, Cell is MHS+, as the logic doesn't add up well.
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..........if Piccolo cells never age, and Cell has those as part of his cells, 1 + 1 should be = to 2
you can, then do it
"Limitless fallacies"? what that?
again, Cell is not a namekian, he is an android created from the Cells from numerous species and beings, unless you can prove that his life spam is = to a namekian, then no
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He has EVERYONE’S Ki. Whenever he channels the info/data of a person, his Ki radiates like their’s. This INCLUDES Piccolo.
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