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Uh-Piccolo and Tambourine are cut of the same cloth. When Daimao Piccolo creates his sons, he can actively choose how they come out and model them, such as when he made one of them a Dragon on purpose.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Sure, but does that extrapolate to a biological or magical level? Rather, it is not given a scientific background at all and it is entirely due to magic.
We know that ki can be transmitted through cells but magic cannot and they are two different concepts in DB.
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Yep, and Piccolo Junior is the one to whom in his death he gives his entire existence (which he did consciously)
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The online calc giving me wrong answer. Why is the ans of x/y bigger than x. It makes 0 sense.
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He deserves a fusion with someone, tbh
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the magic in this case was used to alter his biology to never age, aka, his cells
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I don't have any strong opinions on this Cell/Piccolo debate but it's worth noting that apparently the Cell Jrs. haven't appeared to have aged at all between the Cell Games and Dragon Ball Super.
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I’ve been thinking if Cell is accepted to have possibly immortality type 1? Can’t we just do a possible calc based on if he doesn’t have type 1? I think that’s the best solution to this.
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But it is not specified that Piccolo King's wish can be transmitted by cells. The ability is a product of magic, the transmission of the ability from Piccolo to Piccolo Junior is through his will and putting his entire existence in the egg. Cell has Piccolo's cells and Piccolo's ki but has not demonstrated type 1 immortality and has not given any allusion to it when it is based on magic and the bearer's will to transmit it.
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Doesn't seem like a good idea to me tbh.
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For the record, their speed is not heavily downplayed. The characters in the Frieza and Cell Sagas have multiple glaring anti-feats that you'd have to ignore completely to try and accept that the characters have MFTL+ travel speed.
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Did we calc Namek's GBE yet or nah?
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Be careful, bro
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Haven't seen a convincing arguement for how a SS tier character can be a threat to a galaxy with only MHS travel speed and no immortality. I've gotten a bunch of sophism, but nothing really concrete. At the end of the day I really don't care about the manga travel speed stuff given its just in the same line as trying to partially take away 5C Roshi and 4B Cell/Gohan shit, but I am thoroughly unconvinced by these arguments.
A better question is how funny would it be if the series just decided to tell us that the infinite energy shit can be transmitted genetically?
A better question is how funny would it be if the series just decided to tell us that the infinite energy shit can be transmitted genetically?
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Which makes sense, i think it's been more than 8 years from the Cell saga to Super, right? Then they would have inherited Piccolo's eternal youth.
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17 firing off that funky shit so now his kid got endless ki reserves
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The number I got was 800.
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That second comment name just reminds me of Seth moon level video.
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Why not? If we know his lifespan and the fact that he’d destroy all celestial bodies with his AP. We can calculate a speed for possible under the assumption that he doesn’t have type 1 as it’s listed as possibly.
I’m aware of anti feats in the Saiyan Saga, but what were the anti feats for the Frieza and Cell Sagas?
There was some errors in the calc, as the panel didn’t show all 3 suns, but Crim would have to make a new calc since the current one isn’t too accurate rn.
Do you think you could make a calc? Possibly FTL (or higher) would be nice. As a result of the calc.
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Seth ended up being a POS but he put this site in it's place multiple times. Wish he wasn't a ******* sleazeball and was still smacking this site down a few pegs every so often (whenever it's deserved)
Seth would've seen the partial 5C downgrade and torn it a new one
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Should they grow? And how does that mean they don't have longevity? something that we are sure they have
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I meant Cell’s lifespan. 800 years. I don’t know how to do calculations such as what you’re describing.
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They kind of didn't grow at all, Cell himself is not a normal being like humans, keep in mind that he doesn't have weaknesses like a normal human, he was created in a laboratory with several cells from other characters, Android 17 and 18 themselves have eternal lives and cannot die of old age, it wouldn't make sense Dr. Gero create a being that has a limit to live (although it's just my guess)
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Yes. Even assuming they have only Piccolo’s specific Namekian aging, Piccolo got an adult body at the age of 4. And at the point they fight in Super, they’re slightly older than Goten/about as Old as Trunks. So teenagers.
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In reality, it has not been stated that androids are immortal and yes, at first glance one can believe what you say about Gero but as we all know well that does not always apply.
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Going back to what Omega said, they are not Namekians, Saiyans or cold demons are children of Cell and I don't think what they see biologically applies 100%.
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Right here it is said that they have type 1 immortality, which is eternal life.
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if the wish affected his cells(as i explained it would need to do) then it can be passed by cells, unless any statement specifying the mechanics of the wish, specifically a mechanic that wouldn't allow that to happen comes up, that would be the default assumption as cells would need to be changed in order to give someone eternal youth
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Mmm...he says that he is looking for eternal life and he wanted to extend his life so the only thing left for him was to become an android.
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That's exactly what I asked of you, if you could share a statement that makes it clear that the mechanics of desire are biological and not magical, as we know the spheres function.
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......based on how aging itself works, to make one young forever one would need to have their cells altered, that is just how aging works
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Sure, give me the scan of the biological explanation of the wish that Piccolo made and that's it.
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And the internal logic of the story giving that explanation?
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........as i said, you have to alter the cells to make someone not age, that is how aging works
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He also likely used the bio-engineering component he used for the Androids, which makes them almost (but not quite) ageless. So his statement on Eternal Life is well founded.
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Sure, in real life yes (if immortality existed...) but we are talking about immortality made with magic (an attribute that Cell never demonstrated) and not with a biological explanation involved.
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Longevity, there is no estimate of life span but it is not even close to equal to eternal life.
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From my point of view on the scene, Gero declares that he became an android to live longer and therefore can investigate more to obtain eternal life, perhaps my intention was not clear when translated.
