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Yes, I understand and agree to a certain extent but many apsectls are not accepted on this wiki which could further validate what you say.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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When accounting for the principles applied to his lifespan (Saiyan Prime being maintained for about “80 years” {relative to their body} and Namekians of Special ability going to about 500), it should at least be 800.
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Buu literally cannot be under MFTL+ in travel speed, since the timeframe has to be under the Kai’s lifetime which is 75,000 years.
Also, we can’t assume someone randomly has immortality type 1 for Cell. The thing with the highest lifespan we know of that Cell is comprised of is a Namekian. We don’t just randomly assume someone has an abnormally high lifespan.
Also, we can’t assume someone randomly has immortality type 1 for Cell. The thing with the highest lifespan we know of that Cell is comprised of is a Namekian. We don’t just randomly assume someone has an abnormally high lifespan.
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How much distance would someone travel in 800 years moving with hypersonic speed?
Edit: its 1.1 x 10^11 in meters.
800yrs is not right see below
Edit: its 1.1 x 10^11 in meters.
800yrs is not right see below
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To clarify what where I got this number: So, Saiyans live longer than Humans, but according to Toriyama before this, it's they don't live "too much differently" in terms of lifespan length to Earthlings. This is combined with fact their youthfulness has an Age Limit of 80 on their Prime given to us by the Super Manga. Extrapolating from this, I took the oldest person to ever live IRL (Jeanne Calmont of France at 122, rounded down to 120), and called that the average lifespan limit of the Saiyans (which seems fair, as our own life expectantancy in comparison to her is usually at 80). Namekians according to DBZK, which we use, Special Namekians, (which include's Daimao) live to about 500. Taking those two sets, I divided the Prime Age by the "Age Limit" of a Saiyan (.66666 repeating), and applied the ratio/proportion to the Namekian Prime equivalent (which, when applied to the 500 year number, is 300), and then combined the values (as Saiyans start aging again after that period, and thus so would Cell.)
Which means Cell, even without the Infinite Lifespan of Majunior/Daimao should still live to at least 800. Potentially much longer thanks to Frieza's Cells, (as he has not seemed to have aged a single day between Broly and Namek, which was over 26 years since the start of canon, and neither did Cold, who is implied to be sunstantially older than Frieza.)
Which means Cell, even without the Infinite Lifespan of Majunior/Daimao should still live to at least 800. Potentially much longer thanks to Frieza's Cells, (as he has not seemed to have aged a single day between Broly and Namek, which was over 26 years since the start of canon, and neither did Cold, who is implied to be sunstantially older than Frieza.)
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Yes, and it should still be MFTL+ to be able to destroy all the stars in the universe...
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We aren't. We know Piccolo inherited it directly from his father. We know that Cell inherits everything from his donors. Thus, logically, Cell should have Type 1 Immortality. However, it was never confirmed. Thus, because it is possible, theoretically, based on objective data from the series, but never outright stated, it is considered only what it IS: A possibility.
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Perfect Cell isn't a threat to the universe even with "MFTL" "travel" speed. Let's assume with every full charged Ki attack he needs a 5 minute to fully charge again. Which means 12 blast a hour so 288 blasts a day 105120 blasts a year, 84 million blasts with 800 years. So even if say Perfect Cell can one-shot a galaxy. He would only take out 84 million galaxies with 800 years as "travel" speed doesn't matter.
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Piccolo "inherited" him because he was the incarnation (literally his reborn self) of his father (now that I realize it, I also don't know if this is confirmed and with what evidence).
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If he even take abilities granted by wishing orbs then the point is moot in my opinion.
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There is also the fact that Cell cannot be launching attacks of that caliber all the time and he will most likely get tired.
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That's why I highballed it with only a 5 minutes break between them. Also its very unlikely Perfect Cell would spent all his life spamming Ki attacks left and right. Like he would go mad in an infinite loop of exhausting himself with Ki attacks.
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give me a minute, will create a thread to correct that
if you can't age, that means that your cells are altered and affect by default giving how aging works, so if Piccolo doesn't age, it is because of his cells/his cells do not age, and given Cell has his cells, he doesn't age, as i said, 1 + 1 should = 2
as i said, Piccolo's cells doesn't, Cell's wouldn't as well by default, relax, i will create a quick thread to correct that as i said
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again, he is NOT a namekian, if you want to affirm that his lifespan is the same lenght as theirs, prove it, not that it matters given the immortal cells he has be default
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see? that is a good timeframe, someone should calc it
it isn't random, Piccolo has it
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I understand why Luffy has a thing for you haha.
Surely yes, now tell me where such a thing is mentioned to explain Piccolo King's type 1 immortality and when that is extrapolated to Cell.
Don't worry, it will be accepted but count on my refusal...
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And when do I claim that Cell was 100% a Namekian? I gave an estimated time based on what is known about the longevity of the Namekians...XDDDDD
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Someone should indeed Calc it.
Also, I see. I always seen it as eternal youth like how saiyans have their youth until 80 I didn’t know we considered it type 1. Either way, I’m not sure if magical abilities that turn you young would be something that’s hereditary via DNA for someone like Cell.
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Tell me at what point it is explained that Piccolo King's immortality is that way and not rather a magical power which affects him (as demonstrated)...
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It was literally stated in the Daizenshuu this is the case. Thus, because we know that Eternal Youth can be INHERITED, and Cell literally INHERITS EVERYTHING from his Donors, he ON PAPER should have it. But because we don't know for SURE, it is written as "possibly." It is not assumed he has it. It is not assumed he doesn't. It is assumed that he may OR may not have it. Nothing MORE or LESS.
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In itself, I would agree that it is accepted that Piccolo's immortality is transferred to cell if Piccolo's immortality had been explained in such a way but it is more of a magic move and not a ki move in general than from what we know in DB world magic and ki are not the same.
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what thing? you mean Cell having the cells of Piccolo in him?
you want to agree to disagree then?
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oh i see, sorry, my bad, it was a confusion on my part
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to have eternal youth, your cells would need to be altered by default given the way aging works
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You never know, for all we know. he is getting some of his mojo back or kaio ken.
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You mean Tien
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"Inherit" Piccolo consciously inherited it from his son by putting his entire existence in that egg, Cell would be more like Piccolo's Tamborine than a son.
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honestly what does tien even need compared to krillin? bro looks like he doesn't need that
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I would like them to focus more on increasing their skill level rather than new UI-type techniques.
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The same Krillin that got a super solar flare while Tien didn't get anything
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eternal youth would need to have affected the cells by default tho, that is just how aging works
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Sheesh three+ pages of discussion already?
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Yea it's not going anywhere.
Anywhere the buu feat is much better to use in my opinion.
Anywhere the buu feat is much better to use in my opinion.
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It died fast
