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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100






Any of you guys enjoy Dokkan Battle music? Because Frieza and Cooler have some of the best OSTs in the entire game, period. This is music that I wish would appear in Xenoverse and even the anime tbh.
 
dw, soon that will be gone
The “5th dimension” being a temporal axis shouldn’t need to have a significant 3D space of the base structure already has significant 3D space.

It’s basically saying these 5D structures need 2 off-axis (x1,x2,x3 and some combination of x5 and 3 of the other 4 dimensions) significant 3D spaces it should be enough to prove each axis is significant in their own right, which temporal dimensions should be infinite by default iirc.
 
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Been reading DB Kakumei since people were glazing it a lot, and although I don't think it's that great (Story and shit is kinda meh), the art is pretty darn good.
 
I stand by the fact that makes literally 0 sense
But it doesn't, it's simply wiki rules.

This thing that it has to be at least universal size is more a question of what's in the rule at the moment than something that's there because it makes super sense.

For example, how we "treat" (in quotation marks because staff have different opinions) about tier 2 to tier one.

Low 2-C is already 4-D infinite, so 2-C/2-B/2-A should just be a matter of range not AP. Something that we don't take into consideration for tier 2, but for tier 1. You'll see many staff saying that destroying 1 or 1 million 5-D structures is the same thing, it's just a matter of reach.

Why do we treat it differently? Just because.
 
The “5th dimension” being a temporal axis shouldn’t need to have a significant 3D space of the base structure already has significant 3D space.

It’s basically saying these 5D structures need 2 off-axis (x1,x2,x3 and some combination of x5 and 3 of the other 4 dimensions) significant 3D spaces it should be enough to prove each axis is significant in their own right, which temporal dimensions should be infinite by default iirc.
Yup, its kind of the same bad logic on how spacetimes need to be universal in size to be considered low 2-C, which is dumb. Because the spacetime is still going to be constructed of uncountably infinite 3D objects to make a 4D spacetime.
 
I understand the need for different low 2-C objects to be universal in size to not inflate statistics.

But, that’s not the same as saying the 4D axis these objects lay upon need to have a proven universal sizes 3D axis, just that the universes that qualify for tier 2 need to have a size equivalent to universal for the object to qualify for low 2-C.

A 5th dimensional axis that is temporal in nature should be treated like 4th dimensional temporal axes and be considered infinite.

so in saying that. BURN THE SYSTEM TO ITS KNEES
 
I understand the need for different low 2-C objects to be universal in size to not inflate statistics.

But, that’s not the same as saying the 4D axis these objects lay upon need to have a proven universal sizes 3D axis, just that the universes that qualify for tier 2 need to have a size equivalent to universal for the object to qualify for low 2-C.

A 5th dimensional axis that is temporal in nature should be treated like 4th dimensional temporal axes and be considered infinite.

so in saying that. BURN THE SYSTEM TO ITS KNEES
But it doesn't, it's simply wiki rules.

This thing that it has to be at least universal size is more a question of what's in the rule at the moment than something that's there because it makes super sense.

For example, how we "treat" (in quotation marks because staff have different opinions) about tier 2 to tier one.

Low 2-C is already 4-D infinite, so 2-C/2-B/2-A should just be a matter of range not AP. Something that we don't take into consideration for tier 2, but for tier 1. You'll see many staff saying that destroying 1 or 1 million 5-D structures is the same thing, it's just a matter of reach.

Why do we treat it differently? Just because.
 
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although I don't think it's that great (Story and shit is kinda meh)
Bro I tried to get into Kakumei once and I just found the story to be pretty mediocre in all honesty. The art's good as you said, but IMO Kakumei lacks the heart and charisma that exudes out of Dragon Ball regardless of the quality of the arc or whatever media it is.

IDK I personally think that Kakumei's greatest strength is that it's visually amazing, but if everything else around it is mediocre then no amount of good looking art changes that it's not interesting enough to invest time into.
 
The story is better than Dragon Ball Super Super Hero or Granola Arc, i really wanted this art in Dragon Ball
Sure I suppose, but that's kind of like saying "Hey, your apple pie is better than dogshit!", which is not exactly a compliment, nor is it high bar to pass.

That said, I do agree with the art, it's pretty fire. Though that's kind of the only really good thing about it, everything else feels sort of soulless/is missing something, if that's the right word.
 
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In my opinion the anime and manga should have stuck with SBG like RoF arc. Where their base form is SSG level and SSJ/SSB 50x SSG. It would be dope to see SSB2-3 and Cabba would have been slightly above SSG level, since both trained twice. Than we would have tons of Low Multiversal characters just by being base Goku level.

I just like the idea more of a massively powerful base form having SSG power. Instead of the regular base form from U6 arc and on.

But they thought "Nah, we aren't going to make U6 Saiyans, Piccolo, Gohan and the others" SSG/SSB or in between level.

So let's introduce regular SSJ forms again and bring SSG back. Scaling wise from Toei/Akira stand view it makes sense. Now let's not make everyone suddenly Multiversal in power with no training or access to god ritual.
 
In my opinion the anime and manga should have stuck with SBG like RoF arc. Where their base form is SSG level and SSJ/SSB 50x SSG. It would be dope to see SSB2-3 and Cabba would have been slightly above SSG level, since both trained twice. Than we would have tons of Low Multiversal characters just by being base Goku level.

I just like the idea more of a massively powerful base form having SSG power. Instead of the regular base form from U6 arc and on.

But they thought "Nah, we aren't going to make U6 Saiyans, Piccolo, Gohan and the others" SSG/SSB or in between level.

So let's introduce regular SSJ forms again and bring SSG back. Scaling wise from Toei/Akira stand view it makes sense. Now let's not make everyone suddenly Multiversal in power with no training or access to god ritual.
Enough of this, you've already said it a million times, there's no need to repeat things, we're tired of it.
 
In my opinion the anime and manga should have stuck with SBG like RoF arc.
They did. Unlike the Manga, where these details can be inferred, it’s objectively true Goku’s power raised from being a SSG. He’s Low Multi in base.
Where their base form is SSG level and SSJ/SSB 50x SSG.
Happens in the Anime.
It would be dope to see SSB2-3
People already hate the recolor based forms. Going full sale into that would be worse, not better. I also think SSBKK is a vastly more creative solution.
…and Cabba would have been slightly above SSG level, since both trained twice. Than we would have tons of Low Multiversal characters just by being base Goku level.
Happens in the Anime.
I just like the idea more of a massively powerful base form having SSG power. Instead of the regular base form from U6 arc and on.
Happens in the Anime.
But they thought "Nah, we aren't going to make U6 Saiyans, Piccolo, Gohan and the others" SSG/SSB or in between level.
The narrative is not benefited by them being this level, 1, 2, they are this level in the anime.
So let's introduce regular SSJ forms again and bring SSG back. Scaling wise from Toei/Akira stand view it makes sense. Now let's not make everyone suddenly Multiversal in power with no training or access to god ritual.
I dunno what you’re even saying anymore.
 
They did. Unlike the Manga, where these details can be inferred, it’s objectively true Goku’s power raised from being a SSG. He’s Low Multi in base.

Happens in the Anime.

People already hate the recolor based forms. Going full sale into that would be worse, not better. I also think SSBKK is a vastly more creative solution.

Happens in the Anime.

Happens in the Anime.

The narrative is not benefited by them being this level, 1, 2, they are this level in the anime.

I dunno what you’re even saying anymore.
Dude dont....there's no point in debating her she's a broken record with an infinite energy source you cant win
 
They did. Unlike the Manga, where these details can be inferred, it’s objectively true Goku’s power raised from being a SSG. He’s Low Multi in base.

Happens in the Anime.

People already hate the recolor based forms. Going full sale into that would be worse, not better. I also think SSBKK is a vastly more creative solution.

Happens in the Anime.

Happens in the Anime.

The narrative is not benefited by them being this level, 1, 2, they are this level in the anime.

I dunno what you’re even saying anymore.
It's both manga and anime. The manga tells you to watch the RoF movie and calling it a sequel. Where he has SSG power in base. So it's both in RoF manga and anime.

SSB2-3 wouldn't be a recolor. It would like exactly like SSB but with SSJ2-3 hair. SSB kaioken isn't about recolor, but about the fact its a great multiplier than SSB3. 8x vs 20x SSB level.

What I'm saying is: Toei/Akira didn't want to introduce multiversal characters left and right and balanced it with regular base and SSJ1-3.
 
They did respect the Saiyan Beyond God thing in the anime, they respected it so much that SSG was past Goku the first time and they stuck to it that way until the TOP because the Broly Movie was coming up with them using God and there was no point anymore so they lax on it, but they're still Godly level in Base.
 
It's both manga and anime. The manga tells you to watch the RoF movie and calling it a sequel. Where he has SSG power in base. So it's both in RoF manga and anime.

SSB2-3 wouldn't be a recolor. It would like exactly like SSB but with SSJ2-3 hair. SSB kaioken isn't about recolor, but about the fact its a great multiplier than SSB3. 8x vs 20x SSB level.

What I'm saying is: Toei/Akira didn't want to introduce multiversal characters left and right and balanced it with regular base and SSJ1-3.
the RoF movie is not the same as the anime, where it is adapted with some differences
 
They tried to shut me down. Yet, I have to respect them?
.........how do you expect to be respected when you are not respecting others yourself? you tried that, it didn't work, you start to assert your own view as fact, others disagreed, you still asserted your view as fact, other said that they already didn't agreed, you kept repeating it over and over, all while not doing any thread about it, just whining endlessly, people got fed up, called you out about it, you continued, of course they tried to shut this whining that is going on everyone's nerves down

you need to learn to respect other people's views, just because you think that your vision is the correct one, that doesn't give you the right to stray up ignore everyone's else view and diminish their opinions by asserting yours in a pedestal of "i am the one with the facts, you are all wrong and wankers", that is just egotistical, you already tried people didn't agreed, move on, no one's impressed, at this point, your not even just annoying anymore, you are starting to be boring, if you don't care about that then please continue, but know this, whine without action is simply useless and will never be take seriously by anyone
 
I don't know how to feel.

I don't think that SBG is something that can be activated and deactivated, since at least I've never seen anything like that happen, I think it's something that stays on all the time.

But I don't like everyone 2-C.

Hmm.
 
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