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tbh he didn't in his original script/the movieI sometimes wonder what made Toriyama go "you know what? he should be able to destroy the universe!" when designing the BoG arc
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tbh he didn't in his original script/the movieI sometimes wonder what made Toriyama go "you know what? he should be able to destroy the universe!" when designing the BoG arc
All i wanted was an ssj4I would prefer if they go forward with more skills and abilities then transformation. I'm tired of seeing more colours changes, even if they go with transformation I would like them to have more body change then just the hair colours.
Actually he did, it is in the movie trailer and even the poster i believe. It was later removed due to the earthquake that had recently happened in Japantbh he didn't in his original script/the movie
Toyotaro was a fan who hurt Toriyama's successor.In my honest perspective, I have a very complicated opinion in regards to Toyotaro as an author.
On the one hand: His art is very great and is pretty damn close to being similar to the original manga, he has a pretty good balance when it comes to fight scenes and is able to make them destructive while having chorography to them, there are moments where he gives us good characterization, and I personally believe that Toyotaro is at his best when he's doing his own arcs and not following stuff from the anime or movies.
But on the other hand: I consider his versions of the U6, Goku Black, and ToP arcs to be worse then the anime version, he's a fan of shifting the goalpost and changing the position that characters are in power wise (I'm referring to Beerus in particular in this regard, introduces concepts to the narrative that I think are either unnecessary or ask questions that I believe weren't needed in the first place, and for every good characterization he has there's an equally as dog shit characterization to counter balance it in a very frustrating matter (I hate how he portrays Goku in the manga, it's some of the worst regression of a preestablished character which I have ever seen).
So usually how I treat Toyotaro is that he is, at best, a good enough author for Dragon Ball. And at worst, he's PAINFULLY mediocre and I have found that are fan authors out there that do a better job then Toyo does. But yeah like I said, very complicated opinion on the guy.
Yeah I understand, that thread was such a mess.People keep asking me to evaluate their tier 1 threads regardless of if I don't want them too. Also, I can still talk about it (express my opinion on doubting what qualifies), just don't expect me to fully understand it properly or give much in the way of conversation, I'm just not actively going to seek it out and keep my distance.
I'm going to give y'all the silent treatment if y'all make another Tier 1 Dragon Ball thread though. That original one nearly killed me.
More db? I don't mindanybody want a Kid Vegeta/pre-dragon ball saiyan empire spin-off after Daima?
…..Is anime U6 base Goku vs manga U6 Arc SSG Goku a fair fight?
What?
it just happens after Super, simple enoughSo uh, its gonna be interesting how they explain Daima's timeframe and why no one talked about it in Super despite it presumably taking place before end of Z (seems like a repeated pattern, we have so much stuff going on before end of Z)
Everyone knows what your intention is with questions like thoseWhat?
But super hasn’t ended super ends at EoZit just happens after Super, simple enough
Super currently is a year or so before EoZ, Daima can just happen between bothBut super hasn’t ended super ends at EoZ
Sure but that’s still kinda confusing. How does this tie into EoZ without feeling inconsistentSuper currently is a year or so before EoZ, Daima can just happen between both
Just read some speculations online. I don’t fully believe it because if it’s before Super then Shin and Kibito can’t be separate unless the wish did somethingwhere is the information that it is before Super even came from btw?
Technically all that's needed is the HTC being part of a universe sized realmDoubt Universe 7 will reach Low 1-C.
It's a genuine questionEveryone knows what your intention is with questions like those
How can you say it is inconsistent without knowing how it plays out?Sure but that’s still kinda confusing. How does this tie into EoZ without feeling inconsistent
Exactly, Kibitoshin not being a thing shows that it is after SuperJust read some speculations online. I don’t fully believe it because if it’s before Super then Shin and Kibito can’t be separate unless the wish did something
Or the dimension of lights being infinite. Literally low 1-C U7 is no where near as crazy as it sounds at first. Like I said there’s multiple ways to go about it all we need are one or two statements at mostTechnically all that's needed is the HTC being part of a universe sized realm
Probably realized he didn't make ssjg look impressive in the movie as well as BeerusI sometimes wonder what made Toriyama go "you know what? he should be able to destroy the universe!" when designing the BoG arc
Eh?Technically all that's needed is the HTC being part of a universe sized realm
Eeeeeeeehhhhhh?Or the dimension of lights being infinite. Literally low 1-C U7 is no where near as crazy as it sounds at first. Like I said there’s multiple ways to go about it all we need are one or two statements at most
Dragon Ball Scaling momentEh?
Eeeeeeeehhhhhh?
I believe i should receive something like thisShouldn't manga g.p ee be layered as he can erase meerus who has resistance to hakai
I mean, I don't think they'll make it a universe but...yea, that's technically all that's needed
What’s confusing you?Eh?
Eeeeeeeehhhhhh?
Since Merus can resist the Hakai, and GP erased him from existence (it is said in his own profile and also because of the immortality of Angels), I would add an EE layer to GP, yeah.Shouldn't manga g.p ee be layered as he can erase meerus who has resistance to hakai
That won't get you anything. It would only increase the 2-C scale(I even doubt that), but it would not give you 1-C Low. For that HTC would have to size difference with Realms.Technically all that's needed is the HTC being part of a universe sized realm
Nah, that's not so.I mean, I don't think they'll make it a universe but...yea, that's technically all that's needed
if it was describe being universal in size we would just get another space timeWould the demon realm up the cosmology?
If it had a significant (universal) size, of course. However, the way Akira portrayed it, not for now. It could change with Daima. If it were universal, instead of being 2-C(3U), it would be 2-C(4U).¿El reino de los demonios mejoraría la cosmología?
Needs a universal size to get 4 universal space-time in universe 7Would the demon realm up the cosmology?
At what point is it stated that Cell can destroy all the celestial bodies in the universe?sure maybe, but the primary piece of evidence is nigh irrefutable and if it is rejected it'll hinge on incredulous stances not refutation of the statement. Dont worry though the crt will have you in the disagree section before its even posted
which is, again, due to sheer incredulity. Nothing disproves that statement as far as I am aware
btw cell has other statements in the manga as well (such as being able to destroy all celestial bodies in the universe before he knows any teleportation with his alleged hypersonic travel speed so his 4-B rating is actually more contradictory if anything lol) so we're far from short on indirect supporting evidence
Ugh what?That won't get you anything. It would only increase the 2-C scale(I even doubt that), but it would not give you 1-C Low. For that HTC would have to size difference with Realms.
would've been so funny if it happened even for just a day12D Multiverse was real