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This is going to turn into a fight and i can see it
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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and if you believed anything else you'd be a dragon ball wanker, meatrider, etc.
I mean I've seen the opposite too. seththeprogrammer was famous on G+ for downplaying Saint Seiya going to far as to say raditz would solo SS and no not the DBH raditz
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I will take your prediction and raise you a whole "no it won't, we're old enough to have a discussion on perceptions of the DB fandom due to tiktokers"
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i mean let's not kid ourselves Wally west is not as popular as Goku
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Do you know that the other world is 4D?
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what's funnier is when they make a "reappearance" by some reddit user who just discovered the verse, does a whole ass blogpost on it about how fodders from the verse one shot all of dragon ball, and it just turns out to be a verse dragon ball probably already beat in debates long ago. Classic example, sailor moon. Toeiverse dragon ball was notorious in the late 90s for stomping sailor moon verse
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I have seen Outerversal* cos he is stated to be omnipotent.
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I know it's not outerversal.
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Nah that's a much more recent phenomenon. you're probably right that this has helped maintain the pushback/downplay but it goes way before that as I said
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At least 4D can be updated, in fact it should be, lol
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it's already treated as a low 2-C structure isn't it?
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Funny thing is, and I’ll explain later in the sts thread, jabu has gotten stronger, enough to where it could be debatable, not necessarily on vsbw
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And while hyping up dragon ball was definitely a thing (I mean the series itself is built on this concept and goes out of its way to flex the power of its characters) I'd argue that this recent wave of wanking dragon ball to outerverse level or beyond by misinterpreting old guidebook scans is more of a "response" to the downplay that already existed (which itself can be argued to be a response to the aforementioned hyping up)
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So it’s a gooning cycle
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if you're referring to GA/GR then maybe, idk cuz I havent read them but the people I'm talking about arent referring to GA Jabu
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maybe omega as well. And yeah I know when people say that they mean classic, like with raditz
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so it's already 4D
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What about the dimension from gogeta vs broly fights?
Personally I have no idea where those came from.
Personally I have no idea where those came from.
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Yes, it was a dimensional barrier that they cracked, but before breaking they had to distort the space-time of the Universe to enter.
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Nah, I'd win.
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But you don't win either, soooo....
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I can understand given folks prob weren't familiar with the manga if sailor Moon and the anime never made the gals look very impressive
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Actually it might be more than that. if you look at the interviews from the movie staff who worked on it they say that this is essentially a computer generated image of a bunch of mathematical equations they threw into the computer and asked it to spit out an image. According to them it is meant to portray a literal higher mathematical dimension so it could actually be the "neutral zone" of Universe 7 that separates the living world, otherworld, kaioshin realm, etc. It might actually be a 5D space but we just cant prove it with the wiki standards currently
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the final arcs were somewhat impressive with them fighting in space and generating explosions that seem to be as large as some sections of the galaxy which is why they were put up against toeiverse dragon ball in the 90s
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yeah i mean he's already galaxy level so it isnt too crazy for him to jump even higher, thats just power creep, we have 2-C Krillin here. That just happens in series that go on for so long their internal scaling becomes messed up
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This also reminds me of bleach. I never liked the verse but boy did it suffer (and sometimes still does) some horrendous and unfair downplay on sites like comicvine and OBD. the verse still cant shake off the "hill level clorox" meme after all this time. The recent wave of universal and multiversal bleach wank (yeah i said it, its complete wank that I really dont believe in) is just an overcompensated response to all those decades of downplay, people going so far as to make Tier 1 bleach scaling and arguing that it beats the likes of Dragon ball (not outhax, but outstat the verse)
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I really love the verse, i just don't like the fans who are very hostile, but there are a lot of good people there, i'm even upset that it didn't end up being 2-C.
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Bleach is fine where its at now to be honest. it really doesnt strike me as a tier 2 verse in any way.
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Here you are in a Dragon Ball community, don't say that here.
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Simple cause and effect nothing new
Extreme wank and Downplay tend to happen
Kubo vague explanations on shit didn't help matter
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I'm not sure how thats relevant, but DB is already low 1-C
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the fact that Kubo left everything so open to interpretation is precisely why a bleach fan can claim with a straight face that the cosmology is multiversal and that Yhwank can one shot Zeno (again, not outhax but outstat).
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The other day on the r/powerscaling subreddit i literally saw a 5D bleach post and not only is it getting unanimously upvoted and accepted but literally everyone in the comment is claiming that this is the new "lowball" for bleach and that any further scaling starts from this as the new baseline and that 2-B Bleach is now downplay....
The same subreddit has like 5 different posts asking people to debunk "universal" Goku and debunks about dragon ball being anything above 2-C.
The same subreddit has like 5 different posts asking people to debunk "universal" Goku and debunks about dragon ball being anything above 2-C.
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I said hypebole in this thread and they blocked me
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