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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Dragon Ball Scaling moment
Killerdrone123
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Shouldn't manga g.p ee be layered as he can erase meerus who has resistance to hakai
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I believe i should receive something like this
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I mean, I don't think they'll make it a universe but...yea, that's technically all that's needed
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What’s confusing you?
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Since Merus can resist the Hakai, and GP erased him from existence (it is said in his own profile and also because of the immortality of Angels), I would add an EE layer to GP, yeah.
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That won't get you anything. It would only increase the 2-C scale(I even doubt that), but it would not give you 1-C Low. For that HTC would have to size difference with Realms.
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Nah, that's not so.
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Would the demon realm up the cosmology?
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if it was describe being universal in size we would just get another space time
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If it had a significant (universal) size, of course. However, the way Akira portrayed it, not for now. It could change with Daima. If it were universal, instead of being 2-C(3U), it would be 2-C(4U).
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Needs a universal size to get 4 universal space-time in universe 7
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At what point is it stated that Cell can destroy all the celestial bodies in the universe?sure maybe, but the primary piece of evidence is nigh irrefutable and if it is rejected it'll hinge on incredulous stances not refutation of the statement. Dont worry though the crt will have you in the disagree section before its even posted
which is, again, due to sheer incredulity. Nothing disproves that statement as far as I am aware
btw cell has other statements in the manga as well (such as being able to destroy all celestial bodies in the universe before he knows any teleportation with his alleged hypersonic travel speed so his 4-B rating is actually more contradictory if anything lol) so we're far from short on indirect supporting evidence
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Ugh what?
HTC has its own separate time dimension and it's contained within U7 which has its own time axis as well
Should HTC become significantly sized (aka universal) it's time axis would be tierable and U7 would have 2 time dimensions
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would've been so funny if it happened even for just a day
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In the Dragon Ball Super Heroes novel it is mentioned that Cell's attack will take the entire Universe
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For it to be a higher time dimension, time must flow in a different direction, therefore it will be orthogonal, and in the case of HTC although it has a different time dimension, btw it continues to flow in the same direction as the universal time of U7, so isn’t orthogonal but parallel, and as far as I know, parallel time dimensions don’t give low 1-C…
Killerdrone123
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Not necessarily if the time dimension can overarch or hold lesser time dimensions it is assumed to be orthogonal directly
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As long as a realm that has its time dimension contains/encompasses another one that has a unique time dimension, it's a higher time dimension, and is assumed orthogonal
All this was settled last year
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That's unironically my long-term goal here insofar as Dragon Ball is concerned. Whether it's through 5-D Afterlife, overarching Marcocosm timeline, Subspace, or Swirling Lights Dimensions, fingers crossed Universe 7 reaches Low 1-C sooner or later.
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I will be supporting you
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So if I understand correctly, your point is that if HTC, which has its own time dimension and in this wiki is portrayed as a subspace of universe 7, proves to have a significant size, then the U7, which contains it, would have a higher time dimension?
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The fact U7 has the HTC inside of it's timeline would already mean that U7 is insignificant 5D and tbh, and I'm not even seeing how it wouldn't be straight up 5D, temporal axes aren't assumed finite iirc
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Thanks for your great work we’ve low 1-C DBS
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Time Axis do not have spatial sizes for that to matter, it's second temporal dimension is already tierable, hence the current low 1-C rating
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It does here, it has to service at least a universe sized space. That's why HTC doesn't count towards any low1C argument for universe 7
DB has 3 Temporal dimensions but only 2 are tierable, the one for the macrocosms and the one for the timeline that contains them.
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but the universe is already significant in its 3D space, it shouldn't need to be proven to be significant in 3D space x2
if the HTC is a temporal dimension orthogonal by U7s timeline, it is low 1-C period.
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.....the ROSAT's temporal dimension statement is cureently used as proof of the second temporal dimension tho
......DB has 2 temporal Dimensions, 1 for the individual universes, the other for the entire hyper timeline emcompassing said universes, the ROSAT's statement was used for proof of that
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if the HTC is within U7s timeline, then the overarching timeline Zeno destroyed would be 6D and each universe would be 5D.
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If I remember correctly there was no statement used for hypertinelines.
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@Hasty12345 this is your chance! Show the fruits of your improved education!!!
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If yall don't know
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DBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
So this is the currently used calc for Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, it assumes that Vegeta is the size of earth, however this blog has now put forth a baseline for an average Planet in dragon ball using canon information The calculation for planet Vegeta is identical with one except, the...
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Wasn’t destroying planet Vegeta a 5-A/High 5-A feat?If yall don't know
DBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
So this is the currently used calc for Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, it assumes that Vegeta is the size of earth, however this blog has now put forth a baseline for an average Planet in dragon ball using canon information The calculation for planet Vegeta is identical with one except, the...
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Unfortunately, for some reason, spatial size matters with unique time dimensions
It was used as supporting proof to show that U7 has its own time dimension as it was called a "different time dimension" to the living world
Go and recheck the hyper timeline blog
This wiki doesn't accept this reasoning at this point, a time dimension must apparently service a minimum of a universe sized space to be tiered
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currently it's just Dwarf Star, but if this thread gets accepted it'll be Small Star
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Just read the first line of that thread
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Have you got a quote for this?
Temporal dimensions aren't the same as timelines, temporal axes are assumed to be infinite iirc, proving a 5th-dimensional time axis services a 3D space is proven by being the 5th axis of a universe axiomatically.
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