Hasty12345
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Comicvine downplay everything
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Ive been on multiple sites/subs and discord server and i would say most of them are like that when it comes to dragonball
Feats that are clear cut get downplayed/context ignored while the others get wanked to universal/multiversal (the verses ive read from front to back multiple times)
CAN THEY BEAT GOKU THO?
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The recent example of this is sung jin woo I don't know where people got the idea that he is universal let alone planetary when he never even showed feats like that
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I think that too, they can't handle knowing that just one secondary character is already soloing the verse
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Sung jin woo i know, he created an infinite dimension, where to keep all their shadows, within his domain he is practically omnipotent and is compared to Gods who created the Universe and can destroy countless worlds.
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Iirc that dimension was never called infinite
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Here bro
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I didn't understand
Killerdrone123
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I see if sung jin woo really created it I can see high 3a
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Yes, i see that too, but if a profile is created i will be happy to make it that way
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And i know why. No one likes the idea of a buff guy who at the end of the day is just a careless, goofy monkeyboy, soloing their carefully crafted and emotionally complex characters and verse. Like this is one reason why many international Saint Seiya fans absolutely despised Dragon ball. No one likes the idea of Goku just showing up in the underworld looking for a good fight, one shotting Hades and going back to look for more fights just for "fun" when said Hades has such a long history and lore behind him a lot of which is still mysterious to this day
reminds me of how a clear cut galaxy busting feat from Broly was downplayed to star level in many of these forums whereas the sailor moon manga/anime which literally doesnt have a single on screen galaxy level feat was given galaxy level. Why? oh people just liked the idea of a bunch of high school girls beating up a buff guy. Like i said many of these sites were more trollfests made for sh!ts and giggles than they were for debating.
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that's also true. Like I said its not a serious debating site, at this point its just an ancient and irrelevant relic of a long gone era of "debating" that frankly no one misses, its a trollfest site.
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Tell me about it its amazing how badly i
The site fell off
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thats not the point but if you must I've seen the same reaction out of the very same people when you even so much as suggest that Goku can beat anything other than a fodder bronze/silver saint (and not the 5 legendary bronze). Point is people just hate it when characters and verses with relatively deeper lore/story, are "soloed" by some dumb goofy character who fights just for fun. You can literally even observe something similar in dragon ball itself lol
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I really like to see some of this
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I have lots of evidence of multi-galaxy Broly, with the film's director and creator saying he can destroy galaxies.
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Because 1 Unicorn Gallop from Jabu solos Zeno.
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Currently Goku solos all gold together and the bronze boys
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Personally, I felt it was more that since gokus power gets hyped a lot by battleboarders, there’s an equivalent, and perhaps greater pushback also by battleboarders. I mean hell, Goku solos is a thing. Nobody says Wally west solos, because it’s just less hype
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Also the fact in recent years Dragon Ball fans have been using TPRPG rule books and guides to scale Goku to outerversal on popular debating platforms.
Doesn't help anyone take the DB fandom seriously.
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Worse than yes, bro
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This is going to turn into a fight and i can see it
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and if you believed anything else you'd be a dragon ball wanker, meatrider, etc.
I mean I've seen the opposite too. seththeprogrammer was famous on G+ for downplaying Saint Seiya going to far as to say raditz would solo SS and no not the DBH raditz
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I will take your prediction and raise you a whole "no it won't, we're old enough to have a discussion on perceptions of the DB fandom due to tiktokers"
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i mean let's not kid ourselves Wally west is not as popular as Goku
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Do you know that the other world is 4D?
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what's funnier is when they make a "reappearance" by some reddit user who just discovered the verse, does a whole ass blogpost on it about how fodders from the verse one shot all of dragon ball, and it just turns out to be a verse dragon ball probably already beat in debates long ago. Classic example, sailor moon. Toeiverse dragon ball was notorious in the late 90s for stomping sailor moon verse
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I have seen Outerversal* cos he is stated to be omnipotent.
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I know it's not outerversal.
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Nah that's a much more recent phenomenon. you're probably right that this has helped maintain the pushback/downplay but it goes way before that as I said
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At least 4D can be updated, in fact it should be, lol
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it's already treated as a low 2-C structure isn't it?
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Funny thing is, and I’ll explain later in the sts thread, jabu has gotten stronger, enough to where it could be debatable, not necessarily on vsbw
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And while hyping up dragon ball was definitely a thing (I mean the series itself is built on this concept and goes out of its way to flex the power of its characters) I'd argue that this recent wave of wanking dragon ball to outerverse level or beyond by misinterpreting old guidebook scans is more of a "response" to the downplay that already existed (which itself can be argued to be a response to the aforementioned hyping up)
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So it’s a gooning cycle
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