Killerdrone123
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To be fair I dont think it would be a stretch to say gp can destroy a timeline atleast outside the wiki but him scaling to zeno is somewhat wrong
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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I agree with that. I don't feel like the Grand Priest shouldn't be capable of performing this feat of Zeno's, but saying he scales to that feat because he's STRONGER than Zeno is just a big no-no to me. I can accept the claim that the Grand Priest would annihilate Zeno in a fight but saying he scales to Zeno's attacks is absurd. Zeno's whole thing is that he is THE top-dog. The Omni-King. He isn't a fighter and so comparing him to other people is inherently illogical, he is just the pinnacle, that isn't meant to be surpassed. He could erase anyone and anything if he felt like it and no one could stop him.
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Updated...again, just renamed the keys and added more keys to the Stamina and speed sectionUpdated
Toei Goku Sandbox
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Serlock_Holmes
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The biggest plot hole in the whole of Dragon Ball is where Grand Priest was during Black Saga.
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Drinking tea saying "Angel's can't get involved in mortal affairs" while literally all of creation is being ravaged and ruined and the God's of Destruction are dying. (Probably)
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Yeah it was outright confirmed all GoD were killed. (via their Kaioshin dying, Black ain't that guy to face off GoDs)
The_Yellow_Topaz
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The moon would be much further than that in perspective, if it was 180º on the direction of the camera. So that's not a defeater.I'm not sure if the "Piccolo didn't destroy the moon" statement is all that reliable, we're shown it's gone from space here:
Vegeta also couldn't find the moon whatsoever
Killerdrone123
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Hey I have heard this statement that in dbz kakarot it was stated by whis that not even 3 ssj blue goku could destroy beerus planet is it true
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I'm not sure if the "Piccolo didn't destroy the moon" statement is all that reliable, we're shown it's gone from space here:
Vegeta also couldn't find the moon whatsoever
Hasty12345
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So SSB isnt even planetary in this game?
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Remote that controls all Vs the king of all
Announcer's remote {cartoon network punch time explosion} Vs Omni king Zeno {dragon ball super} Speed is equilized Profile of Zeno https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Zen%27%C5%8D Profile of remote https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Remote Remote: @Hellformer Zeno : Inconclusive:
Killerdrone123
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Idk if this is true but it would more so be a upgrade for beerus planet then a downgrade
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That's clearly contradicted by Frieza destroying planet Vegeta, and Vegeta/Cell almost destroying the planet/solar system
Killerdrone123
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I mean I am not looking that in a downgrade way I know that,it would be an upgrade for durability of beerus planet if this is true that's why I was asking
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For the Kakarot game sure, but I don't think the statement would apply to the main continuity
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I mean, if true, it would be an upgrade to the planet rather than a downgrade
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Son Goku Toei Profile Changes
Current: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei) Replacement: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Ednaxel2/Toei_Goku_Sandbox This should be quick, I removed all abilities and descriptions from movies that are accepted as being non-canon (only a few things like pseudo Super...
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Where exactly did the discussion about kakarot game being canon come from if I may ask
Killerdrone123
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Yeah for the game only
Killerdrone123
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He is making separate profiles for dbz kakarot
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Should we include guides Like El Manga Legendario and Super Exiting Guide for multipliers?
Killerdrone123
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I am not sure honestly the thing with heroes is that everything is canon to it
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No I meant generally, I've been seeing 'kakarot as canon' discussions for a while
Killerdrone123
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The argument mostly revolves around the fact that it doesn't contradicts the story
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I yeah I forgot Kakarot is accepted as canon to Xenoverse, nvm it can be used
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Did some more digging, the feat of Frieza destroying numerous stars happens in the game as well, SSJ2 Gohan being at 50% against Cell is never stated
I will use the (iicr) Country level calc for Piccolo since he performs since that happens in the 23rd Budokai DLC (for now the manga calc since the Kakarot game is based off both the manga and anime, we just don't have a calc for the game's feat currently) And the Large Star level calc from Frieza (I don't think Power levels are introduced much in this game so no downscaling from Frieza saga to Saiyan Saga. I also picked the Large Star level one because that's the version of the feat we see)
I will use the (iicr) Country level calc for Piccolo since he performs since that happens in the 23rd Budokai DLC (for now the manga calc since the Kakarot game is based off both the manga and anime, we just don't have a calc for the game's feat currently) And the Large Star level calc from Frieza (I don't think Power levels are introduced much in this game so no downscaling from Frieza saga to Saiyan Saga. I also picked the Large Star level one because that's the version of the feat we see)
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Got the frame work done, anything that needs to be altered?
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Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Statistics Explanation)
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Killerdrone123
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One nitpick I am not seeing any destruction of stars or void left behind in multi solar scanGot the frame work done, anything that needs to be altered?
Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Statistics Explanation)
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Bro, what is that 
thecodex.wiki
At least it's well organized.
Son Goku - The Codex
The Codex Wiki: a comprehensive hub for indexing and profiling characters, items, and civilizations from fiction and reality. Dive into our extensive database spanning anime, video games, movies, books, and more. Discover, contribute, and explore the intricacies of both fanon and canon worlds.
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At least it's well organized.
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I wonder, was there ever a speed calc for SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu fighting so fast the Spirit Bomb looked frozen in time?
Fezzih_007
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"Higher with Biting" lolBro, what is that
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At least it's well organized.
"Can create shockwaves that will eventually become High 3-A" bruh.
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Oh ****, it's that one wiki which has Sailor Moon at HIGH OUTERVERSAL, The wiki's got some nice organization as you said but the tiering's goofy as shit.Bro, what is that
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At least it's well organized.
And this isn't even the worst for Goku, CC Goku from Heroes is only Planet Level at his strongest there in this Codex wiki
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Hmm, that would be kind of difficult to figure out.
First off, even if we assume it's the most amount of time possible, let's say, snailpace, it still wouldn't be relevant for the verse. Yes, even in the game, characters would be Rel+ to FTL, so it's unlikely we will even have the need to calculate it.
Still, even if we assumed it was relevant, how are we going to calculate movement when it varies from gameplay to gameplay? How long can we stay in frozen time before the spirit bomb just explodes?
They legit think the shockwaves are just magically gathering more energy out of literal nowhere.
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Huh. While the scaling is dodgy, having physics manipulation for the Baseball gag and Time Manipulation from the Seasons/Day and Night Cycle from the ritual is neat.Bro, what is that
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At least it's well organized.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Credit where credit is due
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Indeed.
Though, I do have a question—Would we accept image training as Mind Manipulation like they do? Especially because it can deal REAL damage and cause harm? (Such as when Trunks fought against Image Goku Black and got schooled, taking real hits and even shedding blood.)
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