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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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Idk why, but I thought this was funny
 
NishizumiShiho said:
How strong is Videl if all of her outlier feats like surviving against SSJ Broly and Hirudegran taken into account?
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Her surviving Hirudegarn would require 2-C durability which is via Ki so her AP would scale to 2-C as well.

So strong enough 2-C power to survive Hirudegarn, I guess.
 
There kinda is?
Mind controlled Roshi fought base Goku (waaaaaay above 2-C by this point) and apparently fought Tien as well.

Tien later fought against Gohan (who is 2-C) and Piccolo (also 2-C), and even though he's losing, Gohan bothered to disrupt Tien's Kikoho to protect Piccolo, implying it was a threat to Piccolo.

Super powerscaling moment
 
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I saved his argument/post:



People say "SSG appeared in the ToP arc, there before base Goku isn't SSG level"

Akira Toriyama degrees with that statement her is why:


Battle Of God's Movie Interview

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Translations | "Battle of Gods" Animanga: Akira Toriyama

English translation of Akira Toriyama's Q&A session from the 'Anime Film Comic' version of the film 'Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods'
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[Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out."


So according to Akira Toriyama even though Goku absorbed SSG in his body, he can still go SSG, but doesn't need to(His logic, not mine)

Also in the BoG movie when Goku runs out of SSG and tries to stop Beerus's Sphere of Destruction attack in his SSJ form

Beerus comments: "You have absorbed the power of SSG in your body, your haven't powered down that much at all"

And later on Goku goes SSG again to stop Beerus's attack after he already absorbed it's power in SSJ form.

So according to Beerus, SSJ Goku is relative to SSG power and later on he can stack SSG on top of that.

So BoG Movie scaling is like this:

Post-Absorption SSG>Pre-Absorption SSG>Post-Absorption SSJ Goku

Also this directly parallels the BoG anime as follows:

BoG Movie: Goku loses SSG and aborbs it and his SSJ form becomes not that much weaker than SSG

BoG Anime: Goku loses SSG and absorbs it and his SSJ form surpasses SSG

BoG Movie: SSJ Goku fails to stop Beerus's attack and revers to base form

BoG Anime: SSJ Goku fails to stop Beerus's attack and reverts to base form

BoG Movie: Goku goes SSG to stop Beerus's attack and succeeds

BoG Anime: Goku stays in base and breaks his limits to stop Beerus's attack and succeeds


As you can see in the BoG movie it's SSG transformation that stops Beerus's attack, but it in the anime it's base Goku. Showing anime base=SSG parallelism.

I can say much more, but this should debunk it.
 
Veronica said:
I saved his argument/post:



People say "SSG appeared in the ToP arc, there before base Goku isn't SSG level"

Akira Toriyama degrees with that statement her is why:


Battle Of God's Movie Interview

www.kanzenshuu.com

Translations | "Battle of Gods" Animanga: Akira Toriyama

English translation of Akira Toriyama's Q&A session from the 'Anime Film Comic' version of the film 'Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods'
www.kanzenshuu.com www.kanzenshuu.com

[Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out."


So according to Akira Toriyama even though Goku absorbed SSG in his body, he can still go SSG, but doesn't need to(His logic, not mine)

Also in the BoG movie when Goku runs out of SSG and tries to stop Beerus's Sphere of Destruction attack in his SSJ form

Beerus comments: "You have absorbed the power of SSG in your body, your haven't powered down that much at all"

And later on Goku goes SSG again to stop Beerus's attack after he already absorbed it's power in SSJ form.

So according to Beerus, SSJ Goku is relative to SSG power and later on he can stack SSG on top of that.

So BoG Movie scaling is like this:

Post-Absorption SSG>Pre-Absorption SSG>Post-Absorption SSJ Goku

Also this directly parallels the BoG anime as follows:

BoG Movie: Goku loses SSG and aborbs it and his SSJ form becomes not that much weaker than SSG

BoG Anime: Goku loses SSG and absorbs it and his SSJ form surpasses SSG

BoG Movie: SSJ Goku fails to stop Beerus's attack and revers to base form

BoG Anime: SSJ Goku fails to stop Beerus's attack and reverts to base form

BoG Movie: Goku goes SSG to stop Beerus's attack and succeeds

BoG Anime: Goku stays in base and breaks his limits to stop Beerus's attack and succeeds


As you can see in the BoG movie it's SSG transformation that stops Beerus's attack, but it in the anime it's base Goku. Showing anime base=SSG parallelism.

I can say much more, but this should debunk it.
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We already have a rule to discuss this, you will be reported if you try something like that again, trying to demote the base is a rule here.
 
For those who don't understand, there are three crt that she tried to demote Goku's base and they all had the same argument, although the next one might take the report on it.

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Why The "Don't Downgrade Base Goku" Rule Is Wrong

Base Goku=SSG got undoubtedly retconned at the U6 arc and finalized in ToP arc It's like this: BoG: Base Goku>SSG RoF SSB=SSJx50>base>SSG U6 Retcons with regular SSJ1-3 thus SSB>SSG>SSJ1-3 ToP: Finalizes the retcon by finally utilazing SSG form and power. Thus SSB>SSG (shown)>SSJ1-3>base As...
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DBS Non-God Form Downgrade

Currently Goku's base and regular SSJ forms are treated as more powerful than BoG SSG form, but this is based on a misreading and neglecting key statements on what SSG did. First: Beerus states that Goku made SSG Power his own like a burning flame. Which implies that SSG is like a fuel that...
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vsbattles.com

DBS "Base=SSG" Downgrade

Base Goku=SSG got undoubtedly retconned at the U6 arc and finalized in ToP arc It's like this: BoG: Base Goku>SSG RoF SSB=SSJx50>base>SSG U6 Retcons with regular SSJ1-3 thus SSB>SSG>SSJ1-3 ToP: Finalizes the retcon by finally utilazing SSG form and power. Thus SSB>SSG (shown)>SSJ1-3>base As...
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