Vietthai96
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Yes, since the form relied on the power source in Universe Tree and Tokitoki give Goku his power, after dealing with Fu, Goku destroyed the Tree and so Tokitoki stop giving power
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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I see.
Considering how ridiculous Heroes is I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Goku is on that same level in base or something...
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We gonna make it to 1-A Heroes bois just trust the process. All we need is a good good handful of beyond dimensional statements and whatnot and we might be able to cook somethin' up...
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Just wait. He'll absorb the Super Dragon Balls and become so powerful that that version of him will be stated to be unfathomably beneath him in every way.
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Universe Tree Goku with the the most incomprehensibly small glimpse of his power really be out here bolostomping 90% of video games, 98% of anime, and 80% of comics with a glance.
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No but seriously like what the actual hell. This Goku is literally what I would only imagine seeing in some god-fantasy fanfic somewhere.
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@RinneItachi It's theoretically possible that MUI is comparable to UT SSB by the end of Ultra God Mission. Dark King Demigra, without his Time Power Unleashed form, was already much stronger then DK Mechikabura and Fu, and then when at his full power he was considered the deadliest enemy at that point in the series which would make him much stronger then Youth Fu who needed to be killed by Goku using the Universe Tree and having TokiToki give him power.
Yet in spite of that, and with assistance by Xeno Bardock and Future Gohan, MUI Goku at the end was able to overwhelm Demigra in a energy clash and kill him off.....so yeah you could argue that, at his strongest now, MUI is stronger then UT SSB.
Yet in spite of that, and with assistance by Xeno Bardock and Future Gohan, MUI Goku at the end was able to overwhelm Demigra in a energy clash and kill him off.....so yeah you could argue that, at his strongest now, MUI is stronger then UT SSB.
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But lacking all the Time Power hax right?
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nuh uh
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Goku does have access to summons and a dormant keysword, so he still has plenty of shit to throw at people
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Yeah....but he does get the Dormant Keysword in Ultra God Mission and is resistant to Dark Factor and Time Power by the end of Big Bang Mission since he can resist the aura of the Universe Tree, so CC Goku's still got some pretty useful abilities under his sleeve and the ************'s a hax resistance juggernaut. It's nuts, but that's Heroes for you
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Cards, summons, keysword, he can make do.
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Killerdrone123
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We made transition from being one of the weakest 2a to being one of the strongest 5d, how things change
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2-C back then iirc
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Heros was pretty strong 2A characters. On the top 10 non smurf list, probably higher with fundamental upgrades
Killerdrone123
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I mean when they just got upgraded to 2a they were the weakest for some period of time I think they became strong after some time they were getting stomped by shinra
Vietthai96
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They was a brick wall at tier 2, 2-C to 2-B and it take godly effort to make them 2-A
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Even then 2-A DBH was practically haxless at first
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It's funny that it took less effort to make DBH Low 1-C than it did to make it 2-A
Somehow carried by canon
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wait how, 2-A is super simple, verbatim stated infinite timelines
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No one knew that for years lol
It took going through the Japanese descriptions of the cosmology several times among other things
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So the case was there but no one bought it
As for Low 1-C, once the case was there, it was accepted relatively quickly. And then ofc it upgraded DBH as a consequence
As for Low 1-C, once the case was there, it was accepted relatively quickly. And then ofc it upgraded DBH as a consequence
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oh damn, wasn't it said in English also though?
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Bro low 1-C took two standard changes and like 3 threads
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I meant the current hypertimeline standards
unless I'm still misunderstanding
unless I'm still misunderstanding
Killerdrone123
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Not to mention the fact low 1c c.o.t was tried before
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Well apparently possibly Low 1-C was on the table but was thrown out because of an insane stonewall
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yeah..
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UT Goku might unironically be above Zeno.
Fu is stated to be an existence akin to Zeno and Goku one shotted Fu.
Vietthai96
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I looked into it for a sec and yeah it seems plausible, if not even LIKELY, that he's stronger than Heroes Zeno. Which is iffy to me as a big part of Dragon Ball's powerscale is that, in regards to Goku and co., there's always someone stronger, with Zeno being that actual peak, the ceiling of sorts, a kind of level no one is ever going to reach. To kind of spit on that idea is a bad decision imo but, it wasn't confirmed yet so who knows maybe the characters are just downplaying Zeno.
Still, at that point it's a bit silly to say Goku would be weaker than the Grand Priest ofc. So Universal Tree Goku is definitely on the top of the food chain even among Heroes, bit disappointing but oh well, maybe they'll asspull some shit and make some bigger threat still.
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Then again with how many times canon Super has retconned Beerus' power level, it would not at all be surprising if Universal Tree Goku is still fodder to the Grand Priest or something.
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He probably is still below, yes.
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It's worth noting they initially claimed Hearts with the Universe Seed might be a threat to Zeno, and Hearts claimes Gogeta and he would be able to defeat Zeno if they work together.
I'd take claims of characters being on Heroes Zeno's level with a grain of salt.
Spinoirr
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Xenoblade vs CC Goku oh god
Eden_Warlock99
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I think Heart's plan was to EE Zeno tho
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He claimed Gogeta could beat Zeno.
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