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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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That'd actually be pretty cool to see, you know alongside getting to see a God of Destruction fight seriously for once. Like excluding the manga for a sec, the last a GoD fight in a legitmate fight was Goku vs Beerus and I guess their rematch
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It's a shame none of Heroes' Super Unit Attacks involve the Gods of Destruction, those tend to be pretty wild. That's probably the only chance we'd have of getting something like that anytime soon, given how uninterested the manga seems to be in letting the GoDs do wild stuff.
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But for real though, I really want to see the Gods of Destruction at least be in a serious fight or battle something whatsoever instead of doing nothing. And I understand that in Dragon Ball Gods of Destruction destroy in the name of balance and don't normally interfere with mortal affairs, but it's like we haven't seen any serious action since Goku vs Beerus and Heroes has shown that each of the GoDs can have interesting techniques and ways of fighting so why not show them?
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The manga literally had the GoD Battle Royal and the Vegeta vs Beerus rematch as well
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I'm aware of the GoD royale and Beerus vs Vegeta rematch, I mean more so in an animated format
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Most of both happen off-screen.
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Even then the GoD Battle Royale wasn't particularly exciting either, showing such thrilling techniques as generic energy blasts, generic finger beam and generic energy shield. Vegeta vs Beerus was just fisticuffs, with the occasional energy blast and Beerus briefly spinning like a top.
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I literaly never manage to pull any super unit attacks in World Mission, it's so annoying XD
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no... that was beerus still fighting an ant. So it isn’t a legitimate fight.
We have seen GoDs fight for real in 2 occasions in the manga. Beerus vs Champa, and the GoD battle royal, which were lack luster in my opinion.
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Again I'm well aware that such events happened in the manga, I'm specifying that there needs to be a legitmate fight in the anime. Also yes Beerus was massively holding back against Goku but it was the last time we saw him fight someone in the anime regardless of it was serious or not and I think most here would appreciate some more fights with him or other GoDs
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So if anyone comes from Latin America or has watched that specific dub you might be sad to know that Ricardo Silva, the one who sung Cha La Head Cha La among other cartoon openings in that language, has passed away from COVID so RIP mister Ricardo
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I really want a football episode, the baseball episode was so cool (could have been more over-the-top tho, like the Z fighter playing football or baseball should be some 'Prince of Tennis' tier stuff IMO)
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I honestly posted that for other reasons but yeah that sounds great too xD
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People, I have a question: Should Good Buu keep resistance to Mind Manip? He has not evil inside him anymore, so Babidi wouldn't be able to control him anyway, but Buu is still Buu, you know, I don't think it was his evil side that gave him the resistance.
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Babidi couldn't control Kid Buu either really so he really should keep it. Also Good Buu is still capable of being petty and selfish, which is more than enough for stuff that work on 'evil' to work on you in DB.
Also Babidi's mind control really being limited by evil was always iffy to me, sure Goku resist cause he's pure hearted and same for Gohan but being pure hearted usualy come with resisting corruption, which mind control is a form of. Hell, Superman has something like that a few time too. That's just how themes work.
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Speaking of evil stuff, remember when Spike here in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 beated Frieza and King Cold by targeting the evil in their heart? I wonder if he could theoretically beat even stronger villains by targeting the evil in their hearts.
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Nah cause they regen.Speaking of evil stuff, remember when Spike here in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 beated Frieza and King Cold by targeting the evil in their heart? I wonder if he could theoretically beat even stronger villains by targeting the evil in their hearts.
Also Freezer and his dad dying for their heart exploding is doubtful given how unkillable Freezer is.
Unless the Devilmite beam is more of a death hax than 'literaly make your heart explode'.
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I think he could, but people with regeneration would just heal back.
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I remember being stated that the evil inside you grows and you explode, and so is written in this english translation, but I guess the original one should be checked.
But videogames also portray the effect in that way, not only Budokai but also a GBA beat 'em up game where Crillin used to explode when hit by the beam.
But videogames also portray the effect in that way, not only Budokai but also a GBA beat 'em up game where Crillin used to explode when hit by the beam.
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I mean, it could be that if we don't take the whole line about 'Make the evil in your heart grow and explode' literaly but we don't really have anything decisive either way in canon.
Though given how it work on Freezer, it's probably a death hax in the video game (or they forgot how durable Freezer is)
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Most likely it's death hax, and isn't actually just making your heart explode. The way it was described in canon does not directly imply that it causes the heart to explode, at best that's just an interpretation of the explanation, and it was more so treated as blatant death hax that doesn't care about durability in any way, which is how the game's mentioned seemed to take it.
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Budokai Tenkaichi 3's portrayal of the Devilmite Beam is actually pretty interesting, because it takes the morality of its target into account when dealing damage. "Good" characters take less damage from the attack than "Evil" characters, "Pure Evil" characters (eg King Piccolo, Evil Buu, Super Janemba) usually take enough damage to one-shot them, and "Pure Good" characters (eg Goku, Arale) are completely unharmed. It also takes transformations into account (eg Goku's Super Saiyan forms take a little damage from the attack because he stops being pure-hearted, Roshi's buff form takes slightly less damage than his base form because he is suppressing his desires) and morality-based items will increase or decrease the damage accordingly.
(The move automatically one-shots during Devilman's level because the game applies a hidden item that causes attacks to deal an automatic 99,999 damage, which it does when an attack is supposed to canonically kill the target. This usually happens during the final cutscene of a level when the player finishes off the enemy (Piccolo hitting Raditz with the Special Beam Cannon, Goku hitting Frieza with the Angry Kamehameha, Gohan hitting Cell with the Father-Son Kamehameha, etc.) to ensure that the target actually dies from the attack. If you just fire the Devilmite Beam at the enemies normally during the level, it'll only take off a couple health bars - still enough to pretty much kill them in a normal battle, but only around 1/3 of their health in that level.)
(The move automatically one-shots during Devilman's level because the game applies a hidden item that causes attacks to deal an automatic 99,999 damage, which it does when an attack is supposed to canonically kill the target. This usually happens during the final cutscene of a level when the player finishes off the enemy (Piccolo hitting Raditz with the Special Beam Cannon, Goku hitting Frieza with the Angry Kamehameha, Gohan hitting Cell with the Father-Son Kamehameha, etc.) to ensure that the target actually dies from the attack. If you just fire the Devilmite Beam at the enemies normally during the level, it'll only take off a couple health bars - still enough to pretty much kill them in a normal battle, but only around 1/3 of their health in that level.)
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Speaking of evil stuff, remember when Spike here in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 beated Frieza and King Cold by targeting the evil in their heart? I wonder if he could theoretically beat even stronger villains by targeting the evil in their hearts.
It should be noted the Devilmite Beam takes Based Defense/Characters size into account when dealing damage, hence some evil characters or forms of evil characters tasking less damage than others despite being just as evil.
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Oh boy, looks like someone else might want to try for Immeasurable DBH.
I wonder how speed standards are going to change this time.
I wonder how speed standards are going to change this time.
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Regardless where did you hear this from? Because it's been attempted a few times and yet it just hasn't come into tuition yet
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I'm curious as well
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Greenshifter said they wanted to make a thread on it in the future, in that one DBH/DBS minor changes thread removing time stop resistance from Gogeta and Vegetto.
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