You're right. And that's what I'm saying. Nearly every fandom is like that here. It's disappointing IMO.
What? I didn't say anything like that.
No, why would you assume he meant new evidence would he involved for 2-A rather than basing it on the current available evidence
Nah, but you saying shit like "if goku were to become 2-A, you would be happy for him being rated something so wrong" is so weird, you speak as if your opinion is fact.
Opinion only takes you so far. Am I supposed to take it seriously if someone advocates for Tier 0 Goku if they say it's their opinion?
Cuz he thinks it is.
I mean, you literally did.
What in the hell are you on about, if the evidence presented is accurate, then yes, if not, no.
Yeah we do know what goku has done, but some people see it differently then others, stop talking like what you are saying is absolute, it comes off as extremely arrogant. Nobody has the exact same opinions on anything power scaling.
Because it's a hypothetical. I genuinely don't understand what's the issue here.
You blatantly refuse the fact that typed the very words you just did, and you’re talking about my credibility? Anyway, I’m really no longer interested in conversing with you, so take this as a last one.
And we are both in agreeance that there is absolutely no evidence of him being Tier 0 and such a tier would be completely incompatible with the story, yes?
Subjectivity only goes so far. Tier 0 Goku wouldn't be an opinion, it'd just be egregiously wrong.
I wasn't even replying to you, but no, I didn't say anything remotely like his strawman of me.
For tier 0, but you initially started with 2-A, so why are you shifting the argument? Because there are arguments for 2-A/Low 1-C goku that aren't bad.
See this is your problem lmao, you think its wrong, I agree, but stop talking as if its just some absolute factual truth.
The idea that a characters strength cannot be tethered to anything with objectivity is not really something I consider reasonable.
Yes those are my quotes. I stand by them.
I'm kinda curious about this part
written guidebook statements are literally as objective as you get, and you have consistently proved to value your own opinion on the matter over them in DB threads
Christ, even outside of debate threads he's a stonewaller lol
Even Goku ain’t breaking this wall
Whew lad.
Not sure what you expected me to say. You made a strawman that I pointed out, then you quoted statements that didn't resemble your strawman. How did that help?
You probally would need to do in a Staff discussion thread, and present your arguments there.
Partially laziness, partially the fact that if someone's willing to strawman you in the first place then they aren't engaging in good faith and no amount of correcting them will change that.
You seem to be leaving out the ways in which your description of my stance deviated from what I actually said.<deagon says that people thinking that DB is underrated in the wiki is a travesty
<i call him out on it
<he says i'm strawmaning him
<i show him his own words where he did in fact call people disagreeing with him and how the wiki rates DB a a travesty
<'yes, i did say that, i stand by it'
<'but you still strawmaned me'
And I’m the president of the United States.
I atleast curious about the arguments he could made, are you not? It could be fun.
Makes sense for the president of the United States to want delete the DB verse on this wiki.
don't take this the wrong way, but i've noticed that you love saying a whole lot of nothing and pretend that you have a point
Your just memeing that Obito meme now =P
I mean it's pretty easy. Can you find any words in your imitation of my stance that weren't present in what I actually said?
