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In this case I’m not sure since I don’t recall the top moments that well but it’s one of the justifications that Majora scales to 18
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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JohnCenaNation
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You could just look up the fight on YouTube, between Majora and Android 18, it was just "oomph" and "ow" moments. The ones who actually swapped hands are Majora and Krillin.
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Eh I can see why Majora is accepted to scale to 18 since technically he pretty much tanked a kick with no damage and knocked 18 to the ground but with current justifications and accepted things Krillin should be 2-C
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I would but I'm in the middle of one now.And he keeps winning.
Now to wait for someone to make a CRT about what I brought up.
JohnCenaNation
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You mean like Batman drawing blood from Spectre?Bro he literally knocked 18 out, how does he not scale
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Why does this matter? Krillin scaling contradicts nothing but your personal belief and scaling.You mean like Batman drawing blood from Spectre?
This Fox isn’t stated weaker than 18 or anyone not in that tier. Has no feats going against his scaling. Narratively nothing contradicts this. So this should work.
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Like I said before, Goten and Trunks should be 2-C as of SH. People reject it because they can't accept the idea, not because there is actual evidence against it. The same applies to the idea of 2-C Krillin, even if there is clear scaling people won't accept it because 2-C Krillin is an absurd concept to them.
I was called 'holier-than-thou' for saying this before but I completely understand it and I blame DBS for its god awful powerscaling and dumb as hell leaps. They don't justify the power increases even remotely and yet they happen.
Completely irrelevant. This is a Dragon Ball thread, not a Batman thread. I doubt most here can comment on that kick, its context or anything along those lines. If you want to bring up outliers keep it to Dragon Ball. Besides, you can see the Spectre be hurt by bullets there anyways and going off this thread the Spectre's power was being restrained.
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The Spectre literally LET Batman kick him in the same comic my guy, even Batman was surprised by the fact that he could hit the Spectre to begin with.You mean like Batman drawing blood from Spectre?
This is completely different from Majora knocking 18 to the ground, my guy. If you want to disagree with Tier 2 Krillin then be my guest, I don't have any stakes in that argument, but I'm commenting on the Spectre comparison because it's blatantly ignoring context
JohnCenaNation
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I mean Krillin from the previous saga you know the one that comes before Tournament of Power Saga, needed Goku to restrain himself badly including wearing a heavily turtle suit that supposed burden his movements just for Krillin to have a chance in their spar which by the way he got overwhelmed. That's also the same saga where Krillin was so weak that a mere handgun from a robber can injure him with Android 18 mocking her husband for it. So Krillin just suddenly becomes 2-C in the following saga with no explanation whatsoever because of your personal belief and scaling, sure why not?
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Mfs love posting shit without context, this idea against 2-C krillin is literally cope, we have a valid scaling chain, krillin fought and beat someone who fought a 2-C character yet cant be considered 2-C.The Spectre literally LET Batman kick him in the same comic my guy, even Batman was surprised by the fact that he could hit the Spectre to begin with.
This is completely different from Majora knocking 18 to the ground, my guy. If you want to disagree with Tier 2 Krillin then be my guest, I don't have any stakes in that argument, but I'm commenting on the Spectre comparison because it's blatantly ignoring context
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That’s not the argument, androids have power even increases during the duration of the ToP and that is exemplified by 17 whom I’m referring to in the example
18 being an android very well means she could have started much weaker and end up a higher tier later on the tournament.
JohnCenaNation
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thats not implied lmao
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keep bringing up other series
Star level Chad confirmed.
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Or SSJ Trunks having a PL of 5
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Everyone has shown some form of growth the further they lasted in the tournament, at one point it becomes the rule.
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Hey can you provide some context or an explanation behind this scene? Because not to sound rude here, but you can't just bring up random ass scans from other series which supposedly prove your point without providing explanations. Again I don't have any stakes in Tier 2 Krillin, but your examples thus far don't correlate with what Krillin scales to and what feats he's done apparently.
Star level Chad confirmed.
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You know that a similar scene happened in the Battle of Gods arc which resulted in Beerus not showing any reaction outside of surprise for Bulma hitting him and then immediately knocking her unconscious with a slap of his own, right?
The fact that a serious moment displayed Beerus being superior to Bulma, which is something I don't need to explain but I have to it seems, should tell the viewer that the scene later in the series where Bulma hits Beerus in the head is clearly meant to be a gag. Since, you know, Dragon Ball is also meant to be a comedy as well.
The fact that a serious moment displayed Beerus being superior to Bulma, which is something I don't need to explain but I have to it seems, should tell the viewer that the scene later in the series where Bulma hits Beerus in the head is clearly meant to be a gag. Since, you know, Dragon Ball is also meant to be a comedy as well.
JohnCenaNation
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Don't forget she was also able to blitz and one-shot Goku from the very first saga of Dragon Ball Super after he absorbed the Super Saiyan God power in his base form. Meaning Low Multiverse level and Massively FTL+ Bulma is very consistent.
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Why does it need to be toryama to be WoG?
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Well did he contribute to the script of dbs? If not then he’s not really WoG if he did then there’s explanations for it simple as I gave
JohnCenaNation
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Define comedic feat, this wasn't the only time Bulma was able to hurt Goku though.
2-C Bulma is very consistent.
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You know that we use WoG from an artbook for zamasu right?
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A comedic scene is done for a funny moment and it would apply for that scene you just showedDefine comedic feat, this wasn't the only time Bulma was able to hurt Goku though.
2-C Bulma is very consistent.
Pretty sure that nots WoG but supporting statements similar to a guide since even guides aren’t WoG but if the art book was published by Shuiesha or sum it should be fine
JohnCenaNation
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Bulma was angry in that scene for it to be comedy. What about Videl surviving Hirudegarn's attack? This is a 2-C feat alright.
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One arc later, Frieza fires a Ki blast to kill Bulma and the later is shown to be extremely terrified and unable to defend herself.Define comedic feat, this wasn't the only time Bulma was able to hurt Goku though.
2-C Bulma is very consistent.
Like come on man, you can't just use comedic moments like this in a series that started off as a gag manga and seem to willingly ignore other moments which show the complete opposite reaction
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Bulma being angry doesn’t disqualify it from being a comedy scene
Bulma was angry in that scene for it to be comedy. What about Videl surviving Hirudegarn's attack? This is a 2-C feat alright.
Uh okay if you think it’s a 2-C feat though I’d assume Hirdugarn was holding back
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Toei Videl has some proof for being "At most 2-C", but that's for another day
Bulma was angry in that scene for it to be comedy. What about Videl surviving Hirudegarn's attack? This is a 2-C feat alright.
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Bulma was angry for very good reason, because the gif in question comes from a scene where Goku is constantly bugging Bulma because he wants to see Whis and be trained by him. And this accumulates with Goku waiting for Bulma to get out of the shower to ask her again, hence why she punches him out of anger.
Again, I think it is 100% clear that this is meant to be a joke.....because Dragon Ball is also a comedy as well
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I'm not touching this overall because I don't care about scaling but bro it's Hirdugarn he's not holding back
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Well **** I mean videl held her own against Broly but Broly was fasho holding back dk how to treat videls feat
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Outlier. That simple, really.
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Second coming broly basically has him being = Base Gohan as SSJ, and edge out SS2 Gohan with LSSJ, meaning LSSJ has a 25,000x multiplier over base form.
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