Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[TiltedFN]

so what, is dbs 5 2-C now instead of 6? Because 3 gods fighting is 5 spacetimes, so jiren>3 gods and then top tiers would scale and then the rest would be just baseline.

 

[TiltedFN]

wait no its still 6 because 1 god can destroy 2 spacetimes, so its still solid

 

[Omegabronic]

so what, is dbs 5 2-C now instead of 6? Because 3 gods fighting is 5 spacetimes, so jiren>3 gods and then top tiers would scale and then the rest would be just baseline.

4 actually

 

[K_o_Karlyn]

You know, this whole affair with Hateshinai really want me to go and check all the other japanese series that are rated with infinite speed/size due of statements or guidebooks and see how many do use the term Hateshinai rather than Mugen.

I'd bet 10 bucks u find a whole lot

 

[thetechmaster36]

wait what, only 4 uni 2-C?

when did that happen, i wasn't paying attention lol

 

[TiltedFN]

4 actually

how is it four, one god can destroy 1 macrocosm with 2 spacetimes, 2 gods fighting can destroy 2 macrocosms with 2 spacetimes each, you have to factor that other god, so yes it is 6, should have been 9 beforehand.

 

[Omegabronic]

how is it four, one god can destroy 1 macrocosm with 2 spacetimes, 2 gods fighting can destroy 2 macrocosms with 2 spacetimes each, you have to factor that other god, so yes it is 6, should have been 9 beforehand.

that is not how tier 2 works, 2 gods = 4 space times getting destroyed, 3 gods = >>above that sure, but without feats you can't do sum like this, this is the same reason multipliers don't make anyone go up to more universes for example

 

[TiltedFN]

that is not how tier 2 works, 2 gods = 4 space times getting destroyed, 3 gods = >>above that sure, but without feats you can't do sum like this, this is the same reason multipliers don't make anyone go up to more universes for example

this isnt the same as multipliers lmao, one god can destroy 2 spacetimes, 2 gods togethor can destroy 4 spacetimes, thats literally 6. So jiren>3 gods fighting.

 

[Omegabronic]

this isnt the same as multipliers lmao, one god can destroy 2 spacetimes, 2 gods togethor can destroy 4 spacetimes, thats literally 6. So jiren>3 gods fighting.

this is exactly like multipliers, this is not how tier 2 works, one god can destroy 4 space times not 2, 3 gods are unquantifiably above that, if it worked like that every multiplier would make every tier 2 chars go up universes lol

 

[TiltedFN]

this is exactly like multipliers, this is not how tier 2 works, one god can destroy 4 space times not 2, 3 gods are unquantifiably above that, if it worked like that every multiplier would make every tier 2 chars go up universes lol

What are you talking about? We already know that 2 gods can destroy 2 universes (macrocosms) which is now 2 spacetimes each, so thats 4 for 2 gods fighting, we know 1 god can destroy at least 1 universe/macrocosm which is 2 spacetimes, that is blatantly 6.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The Kaioshin Realm is still Low 2-C on its own for being 1/10 of the entire macrocosm, with Other World being significantly larger than the Living World

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

The Kaioshin Realm is still Low 2-C on its own for being 1/10 of the entire macrocosm, with Other World being significantly larger than the Living World

The size would have to total to atleast 10 universes which I don't think is there.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The size would have to total to atleast 10 universes which I don't think is there.

Heaven (the same size as the Living World) is in the center of a dome (the Afterlife) much larger than itself that can definitely hold 10 of those if not more

The Kaioshin Realm is 1/10 of the entire macrocosm which consists of said dome and the Living World

Its larger than the Living World, and therefore a Low 2-C structure

 

[Stefano4444]

Heaven (the same size as the Living World) is in the center a dome much larger than itself that can definitely hold 10 of those if not more

Hasn't the map been rejected?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Hasn't the map been rejected?

1. It got brought back
2. Its literally the only way to compare

 

[TiltedFN]

The Kaioshin Realm is still Low 2-C on its own for being 1/10 of the entire macrocosm, with Other World being significantly larger than the Living World

than why was it changed

 

[TiltedFN]

1. It got brought back
2. Its literally the only way to compare

wheres the crt where it got brought back?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Hasn't the map been rejected?

1. It got brought back
2. Its literally the only way to compare

It also appeared in the Super Manga in universe 10, so it must be used

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

than why was it changed

Because someone decided to make some unwarranted changes

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

wheres the crt where it got brought back?

The composite cosmology thread

 

[TiltedFN]

Because someone decided to make some unwarranted changes

yeah it was cryo

 

[TiltedFN]

The composite cosmology thread

oh fr? Then this needs to be changed back, if it was brought back

 

[Omegabronic]

What are you talking about? We already know that 2 gods can destroy 2 universes (macrocosms) which is now 2 spacetimes each, so thats 4 for 2 gods fighting

Which we scale to each god individually since we can't divide in tier 2

we know 1 god can destroy at least 1 universe/macrocosm which is 2 spacetimes, that is blatantly 6.

We know that 1 god can destroy 4, since the clash of 2 of them destroys 4, and we can't divide in tier 2 so they individually scale, why do you think they were upgraded to 2-C instead of staying at least low 2-C like they were before?

 

[Omegabronic]

The Kaioshin Realm is still Low 2-C on its own for being 1/10 of the entire macrocosm, with Other World being significantly larger than the Living World

Until that calc of it gets aproved and implemented, then no, you can make a thread on it tho

 

[Omegabronic]

Heaven (the same size as the Living World) is in the center of a dome (the Afterlife) much larger than itself that can definitely hold 10 of those if not more

The Kaioshin Realm is 1/10 of the entire macrocosm which consists of said dome and the Living World

Its larger than the Living World, and therefore a Low 2-C structure

Unless you can prove how big it is then we can't

 

[Omegabronic]

1. It got brought back

Nope, still not in scale, statements are fine tho

2. Its literally the only way to compare

The map can't be used to compare unless you want to say that both are of the same size, which makes your argument not work

 

[Omegabronic]

The composite cosmology thread

Just to clarify, the map is not changed, it is simply not in scale and as such can't be used in any calculation or size comparison

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

wheres the crt where it got brought back?

The calculations based on the map have been withdrawn, but the map is still under construction, that's what was decided.

 

[TiltedFN]

Which we scale to each god individually since we can't divide in tier 2


We know that 1 god can destroy 4, since the clash of 2 of them destroys 4, and we can't divide in tier 2 so they individually scale, why do you think they were upgraded to 2-C instead of staying at least low 2-C like they were before?

okay so 3 gods=12 spacetimes then because 1 god=4 spacetimes, so WOV can remain unshaken by 3 gods fighting, and jiren walking>

 

[Omegabronic]

okay so 3 gods=12 spacetimes then because 1 god=4 spacetimes, so WOV can remain unshaken by 3 gods fighting, and jiren walking>

Again, you can't multiply in tier 3, if you could each god would be 2 space times, math is useless to get higher values of space times in tier 2 dude, if you really do not believe me be my guest and make a thread to upgrade them based on that, i tell you, it will not go anywhere

 

[Phsccarvalho]

okay so 3 gods=12 spacetimes then because 1 god=4 spacetimes, so WOV can remain unshaken by 3 gods fighting, and jiren walking>

Again, you can't multiply in tier 3, if you could each god would be 2 space times, math is useless to get higher values of space times in tier 2 dude, if you really do not believe me be my guest and make a thread to upgrade them based on that, i tell you, it will not go anywhere

Math is almost useless in this type of tier, as it deals with infinites. It would be like using ssj's 50x argument to make Goku scale to 150 universes because 50 x 3 = 150

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Nope, still not in scale

And who are you to say that? It got brought back and its the only scale we have

statements are fine tho

There's exactly one statement and it has to do with Heaven not Other World

The map can't be used to compare unless you want to say that both are of the same size, which makes your argument not work

I have no idea what you're saying

Just to clarify, the map is not changed, it is simply not in scale and as such can't be used in any calculation or size comparison

Its literally the only thing we have to compare sizes between the Kaioshin Realm and the other shit because we can't go anywhere from the "1/10 of the macrocosm" statement without that map as there are no other statements

 

[Omegabronic]

And who are you to say that? It got brought back

It was never take out to begin with, it just is not in scale i size

There's exactly one statement and it has to do with Heaven not Other World

And heaven is inside where?

I have no idea what you're saying

Heaven is smaller than the living universe using the scale in the map

Its literally the only thing we have to compare sizes between the Kaioshin Realm

we have statements of it being 1/10 of the whole thing don't we?

and the other shit because we can't go anywhere from the "1/10 of the macrocosm" statement without that map as there are no other statements

Yes we can, 1/10 of 2 universal sized realms is 1/5 universal, we always did this even without the map's scale

 

[TiltedFN]

Math is almost useless in this type of tier, as it deals with infinites. It would be like using ssj's 50x argument to make Goku scale to 150 universes because 50 x 3 = 150

i know that, but this isnt the same tho

 

[SlendVeny]

Math is almost useless in this type of tier, as it deals with infinites. It would be like using ssj's 50x argument to make Goku scale to 150 universes because 50 x 3 = 150

Death Battle math

 

[Omegabronic]

i know that, but this isnt the same tho

It quite literraly it is, 4 space times power x 2 is still 4 space times

 

[CryoTheMayo]

yeah it was cryo

You're referring to a different Cryo, right?

 

[TiltedFN]

You're referring to a different Cryo, right?

werent you the one who changed it? I remember you saying you changed zeno profile to 2 spacetimes each? unless im mistaking

 

[CryoTheMayo]

werent you the one who changed it? I remember you saying you changed zeno profile to 2 spacetimes each? unless im mistaking

No, I haven't changed anything. I know there are one or two other Cryos so maybe that's who you're thinking of.

 

[TiltedFN]

No, I haven't changed anything. I know there are one or two other Cryos so maybe that's who you're thinking of.

oh damn alright