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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

CryoTheMayo said:
I honestly doubt it. For starters I'm not sure if they could even do anything unique about Beast so it wouldn't be very interesting ability-wise. As for Orange, I really badly want Piccolo to gain Reality Warping via Shenron's power but he would have shown that off in the movie already, unless Toyotaro changes a lot or Piccolo just needs to train the form to gain its actual abilities.
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Piccolo being able to do even limited scale reality warping would be absolutely dope! Hopefully Tori and Toyo go down that route.

For Beast, you're probably right sadly, but it would be sick if it did.

And to be fair, Gohan and Piccolo just got those forms, they likely wouldn't automatically know every little detail about what they can do.
 
The question is what are they supposed to get. Giving Piccolo Reality warping would cause too much PIS.

They (Toyo and Tori) don't even know how to write around Hit's timeskip or Moro's energy absorption.

Vegeta's forced Spirit fission which... ,and this is ignored alot unfortunately, can even be used to drain Ki from a target like when the Elder used it to drain Vegeta's Ki.

Why didn't he use it conjuction with his UE? Getting stronger while your opponents gets weaker sounds really op if you ask me... like RPL for oneself while negative RPL for your enemy

I will make a prediction and say that Forced Spirit fission will be forgotten
 
CryoTheMayo said:
The Light Novel, to my memory, was accepted as canon to the movie since it just describes and slightly expands on scenes (Freeza vs Broly, dimension feats, etc). There is no real 'manga' version besides...two pieces drawn by Toyotaro that might imply events differed but we'll never know how.

So yeah the anime and manga versions both just use the actual Movie and the LN.
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In fact, there is a manga for DBS Brolly, it's just not like we thought, but a remastered movie for some color comics, it's called anime comics, it has all the things that happened in the movie and adds some description about dimension and characters

 
SirAlex09 said:
The question is what are they supposed to get. Giving Piccolo Reality warping would cause too much PIS.

They (Toyo and Tori) don't even know how to write around Hit's timeskip or Moro's energy absorption.

Vegeta's forced Spirit fission which... ,and this is ignored alot unfortunately, can even be used to drain Ki from a target like when the Elder used it to drain Vegeta's Ki.

Why didn't he use it conjuction with his UE? Getting stronger while your opponents gets weaker sounds really op if you ask me... like RPL for oneself while negative RPL for your enemy

I will make a prediction and say that Forced Spirit fission will be forgotten
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Yeah Dragon ball is not good with haxes in less it's Heroes
 
Nullflowerblush said:
How are they permeating sound through a void?
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The same reason characters can move FTL
TiltedFN said:
so what are we gonna do about db speed
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Super I say we should compile and get evidence against potential counterarguments for Toeiverse anytime tbh lol it’s blantant Infinite speed and no contradictions and people be moving at the speed of I.T which is arguably not infinite speed but I.T technically crossed an infinite distance as well but even if I.T is not you can argue characters are already as fast as teleportation
 
Quantu said:
You don't need infinite universes for 2-C DB
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It helps for our standard of what you need to qualify as a Space-Time so I think it’s fine

Plus even if the speed gets “downgraded” it was never accurate anyway it was always heavily lowballed since nobody did the correct Multipliers for speeds and this speed feat is only removed if it contradicts a big part of the story so we just need to compile evidence for why they’re not anti feats which has been done already for t.o.p
BlastX said:
Only High 3-A/2-C canon Buu saga can make up for it.
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When you realize it’s consistent with Buuhan threatening to destroy the macrocosm and canon Buu having multiple statements of destroying the macrocosm and the same guide we use to prove Cell is a solar system buster says Buu is a universe buster
 
Infinite universe is sort of important as the main reason the Kaioshin Realm is accepted as a third universe in the Macrocosm is because since it's 1/10 the size of infinite, it would still be infinite and be considered a Low 2-C structure. Without the infinite universe, then the Kaioshin Realm would be considered too small to be a Low 2-C structure, so destroying the Macrocosm would be 2 universes instead of 3.

So if you want DB 2-C's to scale to 3 universes instead of 2, you need to have the mortal world be infinite.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
How big is the macrocosm without the infinite size?
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We don't know, because there are three kingdoms and only two of them know how big it is, hell is still without a certain size, there is also the space that fits all the sky that is the size of the Universe, so the space of the other world would be bigger than the sky itself and even the universe
 
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it's about the size of the space that contains all the realms (which some have statements)

Like this part where it shows almost completely all the space that contains the realms
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Infinite universe is sort of important as the main reason the Kaioshin Realm is accepted as a third universe in the Macrocosm is because since it's 1/10 the size of infinite, it would still be infinite and be considered a Low 2-C structure. Without the infinite universe, then the Kaioshin Realm would be considered too small to be a Low 2-C structure, so destroying the Macrocosm would be 2 universes instead of 3.

So if you want DB 2-C's to scale to 3 universes instead of 2, you need to have the mortal world be infinite.
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I think we should talk about the dimension of the swirling lights that separated by spacetime, if all goes well we could get a 4th spacetime
 
omegabronic said:
Ha ha ha, no, if it downgraded it would still be faster than sonic by a wide margin
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His addiction to the blue hedgehog surpassed reality and was sent to DB, I think nobody compares Sonic with DB, due to having a lot of hax in Sonic's verse or immeasurable speed (depending on the version )
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
His addiction to the blue hedgehog surpassed reality and was sent to DB, I think nobody compares Sonic with DB, due to having a lot of hax in Sonic's verse or immeasurable speed (depending on the version )
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Youtube vs videos get really toxic when it is those 2, you are brazilian so you know what i am talking about i am sure

Sir_Marvulous said:
Yeah the multipliers go crazy
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what would be the feat they scale to in replacement anyway?
 
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