- 6,934
- 6,753
Really hard to visualize an infinite universe with infinite contents, no?
They HAVE to visualize it as a bubble to show multiple separate space-time continuums
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
- Start date
They HAVE to visualize it as a bubble to show multiple separate space-time continuums
Nullflowerblush
He/Him- 9,854
- 8,711
Maybe don't put it in a bubble.
- 3,708
- 2,343
The very concept of infinity can't be placed into a specific space, though, that's my point. So if universes were shaped in a specific way and shown to have a specific portion of size within it, that naturally discredits the idea that the universe's size is infinite. And the afterlife isn't specifically a separate dimension: it's just a part of the universe that exists above the living world. There were several images shown that supports the idea the universe is spherical, like when Whis is explaining the other universes or when Beerus reveals Zeno is the ruler of the multiverse.
- 6,934
- 6,753
F I C T I O N
- 343
- 411
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
- 12,254
- 6,205
We might as well downgrade the DC Universe accordingly since their Universe looks like a pizza, lol
- 12,254
- 6,205
The afterlife is separated by space-time, there is a dimensional barrier separating the two sides.
- 6,934
- 6,753
The visuals of an entire cosmology aren't a hard cap considering how difficult it is to visualize these things
- 3,708
- 2,343
Well, I'm just gonna wait for the day till somebody downgrades DB again. Cuz it's gonna happen. It always does.
Besides, most of the evidence comes from Daizenshu, and this site has always been contradictory on when to use guidebooks for Dragon Ball.
Besides, most of the evidence comes from Daizenshu, and this site has always been contradictory on when to use guidebooks for Dragon Ball.
- 10,398
- 4,564
- 6,934
- 6,753
Visuals argument already got debunked during the upgrade thread
- 12,254
- 6,205
You should be happy with DB being infinite in size, as this will never happen again, and we also have several quotes saying it is infinite, whether in space, dark or light, but also as the galaxies are infinite, we have more than three citations of galaxies stating such a thing, it is practically impossible for this to happen, but if it happens or the person will make up a bunch of shit about DB only having 4 Galaxies or quoting that it's a hyperbole like a certain person there
- 3,708
- 2,343
Dude, I've been on this site long enough to know nothing lasts. Somebody's gonna bring up the contradictions or the fact it's from anime sources or something like that. I just want things to stay consistent, but this wiki always disappoints me.
- 343
- 411
- 404
- 395
The justifications for the infinite-sized DB universe seem pretty solid to me.
- 343
- 411
I mean if we use visuals to debunk infinite universes - ignoring all the statements - then we should downgrade 99,99% of the verses who cant control destructive capacity while fighting at MFTL+ speeds, lol.
- 404
- 395
yeah visuals arguments are weird and no sense
- 12,459
- 4,480
you people are as innocent as the alien x scalers lol
- 3,708
- 2,343
Yea, that was another constant upgrade that's kinda bugged me.
- 343
- 411
The only thing that DB lacks and ihmo it would 100% cement it ((( No amount of anti feats would ever change that))), is a statement from Akira or maybe Toyo.
You got Mr. Koyama who confirmed the stuff from the guidebooks - which is better than nothing; still good if you want to strengthen your point - but a legit Akira or even Toyo statement would be gold.
- 12,254
- 6,205
Akira toriyama could answer his fans questions and Toyotaro too (although Toyotaro only answers questions that nobody wanted to know) all we wanted to know is the multiverse, we know nothing about who made it or how it works. We literally have virtually nothing.
- 12,254
- 6,205
One more speech that Hit stops time
A technique where the user stops time for around one-tenth of a second and unleashes high-speed attacks in the interim.
A technique where the user stops time for around one-tenth of a second and unleashes high-speed attacks in the interim.
- 10,398
- 4,564
Most AX scalers are aware of the downgrade CRT makers' gripes with Alien X being at a certain tier before the fact.
- 12,459
- 4,480
isn't that talking about the time skip? which is said to exactly not be time stop but time travel + causality manip as we discussed before?
- 12,254
- 6,205
And bro
- 3,513
- 5,234
Visuals aren’t a contradiction an infinite object realistically cannot be drawn
Also infinite things become finite when compared to a infinite thing an infinite 3D space will become curved with the extra dimension of time which would make it appear finite from the outside either way
Also infinite things become finite when compared to a infinite thing an infinite 3D space will become curved with the extra dimension of time which would make it appear finite from the outside either way
- 10,398
- 4,564
They wouldn't have to upgrade if he wasn't downgraded like 3 times or smth.
- 6,934
- 6,753
He solos
- 404
- 395
piccolo solos
- 3,071
- 4,194
But he doesn't have his driver's license tho so clearly he can't parallel park
- 642
- 461
Even Kunshi felt that
From what it looks like Hit developed a lot of abilities other than Time Skip like something he used against Goku back on earth.
BlastX
He/Him- 5,562
- 3,000
Do you mean as in Current Orange Piccolo or as in if ToP Piccolo could go Orange?
- 12,254
- 6,205
Worse than that is true, these skills should be listed on his profile
- 2,721
- 3,520
current orange piccolo solos the TOP, if he went orange in TOP, its hard to say.
- 2,636
- 1,742
Piccolo is consistently portrayed to be at the level of Base to SS Goku throughout the series. Orange Piccolo one-shotted Gamma 2, who should be at least an SSB Goku Tier fighter. Orange Piccolo would probably be an SSBKKX20 - UIO level fighter if he turned Orange during the ToP.
- 6,934
- 6,753
DBS:SH Base Piccolo is Broly Saga SSB level, and his transformation brings him to the same ballpark as Cell Max, who is vastly stronger than UI Goku. This means the transformation is far higher than a 5,000 times multiplier, since it brings him from the former tier to the higher end of the Beerus tier
ToP Base Piccolo is within the same ballpark as Ultimate Gohan, who is equal to an early-ToP SSB Goku. Using the speed values, this would put ToP Orange Piccolo at about 1.6 times weaker than SSBKKx20 Post-UIO2 Goku
This is because SSBKKx20 Post-UIO2 Goku is over 8,000 times faster than Early-ToP SSB Goku, a level ToP Orange Piccolo would be over 5,000 times above
ToP Base Piccolo is within the same ballpark as Ultimate Gohan, who is equal to an early-ToP SSB Goku. Using the speed values, this would put ToP Orange Piccolo at about 1.6 times weaker than SSBKKx20 Post-UIO2 Goku
This is because SSBKKx20 Post-UIO2 Goku is over 8,000 times faster than Early-ToP SSB Goku, a level ToP Orange Piccolo would be over 5,000 times above
Right on the mark
- 12,254
- 6,205
