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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

TiltedFN said:
manga god zamasu>black frieza, gas, TUI goku, UE vegeta, granolah, angel moro, hit, jiren, kefla, beast gohan, orange piccolo, all at the same time eventually. He is so ******* OP.
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Piccolo, Moro and Goku all have options (Piccolo and Goku have Mafuba and are so much stronger they should be able to spam it, Moro has his magic hax to paralyse and seal others) and it really isn't that odd of an idea for Black Freeza to use Imprisonment Balls + Telekinesis to just deposit the Zamasus into a black hole. And while this is just headcanon I wouldn't be shocked if Hit would have the scaling Time hax the next time he appears to lock the Zamasus in time indefinitely or something.

EDIT: Oh, and thinking on it. Gas and Granolah do have access to Instant Transmission where they can warp others, it's entirely possible for them to warp the Zamasus into a black hole or something. That just leaves Jiren, Kefla, Beast Gohan and maybe UE Vegeta.
 
Updated again because Goku always ******* breaks his limits (reminder that he matched and overpowered Fusion Zamasu in an energy clash when it previously took Vegeta and Trunks to simply dispel Holy Wrath)

SSG Goku: 196 quadrillion c
Post-Absorption SS: 9.8 quintillion c
Post-Zenkai Base Goku: >>> 19.6 quintillion c
Post-BoG SS Goku: >>> 980 quintillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>> 49 sextillion c
Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-HBT Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-Limits Broken Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan God Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 septillion c
Early ToP SSBKKx20: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
First and Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
SSSBKKx20 Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 octillion c
Super Saiyan Gogeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 612.5 octillion c
Beerus, Full Power Super Saiyan Broly, Gogeta Blue, and Third Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30.625 nonillion c
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Piccolo, Moro and Goku all have options (Piccolo and Goku have Mafuba and are so much stronger they should be able to spam it, Moro has his magic hax to paralyse and seal others) and it really isn't that odd of an idea for Black Freeza to use Imprisonment Balls + Telekinesis to just deposit the Zamasus into a black hole. And while this is just headcanon I wouldn't be shocked if Hit would have the scaling Time hax the next time he appears to lock the Zamasus in time indefinitely or something.

EDIT: Oh, and thinking on it. Gas and Granolah do have access to Instant Transmission where they can warp others, it's entirely possible for them to warp the Zamasus into a black hole or something. That just leaves Jiren, Kefla, Beast Gohan and maybe UE Vegeta.
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Moro can still copy his powers by touching the back of his head. Or swallow the zamasu, thus absorbing it like you did with 73.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Updated again because Goku always ******* breaks his limits (reminder that he matched and overpowered Fusion Zamasu in an energy clash when it previously took Vegeta and Trunks to simply dispel Holy Wrath)

SSG Goku: 196 quadrillion c
Post-Absorption SS: 9.8 quintillion c
Post-Zenkai Base Goku: >>> 19.6 quintillion c
Post-BoG SS Goku: >>> 980 quintillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>> 49 sextillion c
Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-HBT Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-Limits Broken Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan God Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 septillion c
Early ToP SSBKKx20: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
First and Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.25 octillion c
SSSBKKx20 Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 octillion c
Super Saiyan Gogeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 612.5 octillion c
Beerus, Full Power Super Saiyan Broly, Gogeta Blue, and Third Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30.625 nonillion c
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Damn, nonillion!
 
Interesting Food for Thought

I find it very Interesting that Baldur from God War is pretty much the exact same Zamasu in that both of them literally cannot feel any sensation of pain nor damage, yet the former gets Invulnerability and the Latter gets Pain Inhibition

Ironically the Invulnerability Page says this:
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Like, how exactly can Zamasu be conventionally harmed?
Because he can be punch and kicked?
Baldur is literally the same case lolol
For anyone who has played GoW4, you all know that Baldur can punch, kicked, stabbed and bleed all the way to Kingdom Come
The mechanics of his Invulnerability is that he simply can't feel pain nor any sensations of damage exactly like Zamasu

And the only reason Zamasu would not have gotten Invulnerability even thou it works the exact same way as Baldur's?
Simply because he's a Dragon Ball character and Invulnerability does not look good on Dragon Ball characters profile lolol

So of course
We work our way around the problem by having Pain Inhibition PLUS Godly levels of Regen
And Poof, Pseudo Invulnerability
 
Ss3micah said:
Interesting Food for Thought

I find it very Interesting that Baldur from God War is pretty much the exact same Zamasu in that both of them literally cannot feel any sensation of pain nor damage, yet the former gets Invulnerability and the Latter gets Pain Inhibition

Ironically the Invulnerability Page says this:
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Like, how exactly can Zamasu be conventionally harmed?
Because he can be punch and kicked?
Baldur is literally the same case lolol
For anyone who has played GoW4, you all know that Baldur can punch, kicked, stabbed and bleed all the way to Kingdom Come
The mechanics of his Invulnerability is that he simply can't feel pain nor any sensations of damage exactly like Zamasu

And the only reason Zamasu would not have gotten Invulnerability even thou it works the exact same way as Baldur's?
Simply because he's a Dragon Ball character and Invulnerability does not look good on Dragon Ball characters profile lolol

So of course
We work our way around the problem by having Pain Inhibition PLUS Godly levels of Regen
And Poof, Pseudo Invulnerability
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Even by the standards of the Dragon Ball world, I think it’s fitting to call Merged Zamasu a “cheat” character. He has unrivaled power to beat down his enemies, and the power of immortality, which nullifies all attacks. Another highlight is all the different techniques he comes up with. If he does have a weakness, I suppose it might be the fact that he was originally one person

Use this to assert such a thing, word of Atsushi Kido.

Source
 
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Ss3micah said:
Interesting Food for Thought

I find it very Interesting that Baldur from God War is pretty much the exact same Zamasu in that both of them literally cannot feel any sensation of pain nor damage, yet the former gets Invulnerability and the Latter gets Pain Inhibition

Ironically the Invulnerability Page says this:
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Like, how exactly can Zamasu be conventionally harmed?
Because he can be punch and kicked?
Baldur is literally the same case lolol
For anyone who has played GoW4, you all know that Baldur can punch, kicked, stabbed and bleed all the way to Kingdom Come
The mechanics of his Invulnerability is that he simply can't feel pain nor any sensations of damage exactly like Zamasu

And the only reason Zamasu would not have gotten Invulnerability even thou it works the exact same way as Baldur's?
Simply because he's a Dragon Ball character and Invulnerability does not look good on Dragon Ball characters profile lolol

So of course
We work our way around the problem by having Pain Inhibition PLUS Godly levels of Regen
And Poof, Pseudo Invulnerability
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Whataboutism.

Zamasu is not immune to conventional harm; he has been stabbed twice, had his head blown off, and been sliced in half.
 
Ss3micah said:
Interesting Food for Thought

I find it very Interesting that Baldur from God War is pretty much the exact same Zamasu in that both of them literally cannot feel any sensation of pain nor damage, yet the former gets Invulnerability and the Latter gets Pain Inhibition

Ironically the Invulnerability Page says this:
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Like, how exactly can Zamasu be conventionally harmed?
Because he can be punch and kicked?
Baldur is literally the same case lolol
For anyone who has played GoW4, you all know that Baldur can punch, kicked, stabbed and bleed all the way to Kingdom Come
The mechanics of his Invulnerability is that he simply can't feel pain nor any sensations of damage exactly like Zamasu

And the only reason Zamasu would not have gotten Invulnerability even thou it works the exact same way as Baldur's?
Simply because he's a Dragon Ball character and Invulnerability does not look good on Dragon Ball characters profile lolol

So of course
We work our way around the problem by having Pain Inhibition PLUS Godly levels of Regen
And Poof, Pseudo Invulnerability
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Baldur shouldn't have invulnerability
 
I noticed that SDBH Goku regained his resistance to Causality Manipulation and Hyper Sonic lost his limited mind hax.

If anybody wants to cause problems be funny then maybe someone could redo the match.
 
Updated again because an exhausted SSB Post-UIO1 Goku was comparable to SS1 Kefla who was comparable to the Universe 7 Spirit Bomb

SSG Goku: 196 quadrillion c
Post-Absorption SS: 9.8 quintillion c
Post-Zenkai Base Goku: >>> 19.6 quintillion c
Post-BoG SS Goku: >>> 980 quintillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>> 49 sextillion c
Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-HBT Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.45 septillion c
Post-Limits Broken Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan God Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 septillion c
Early ToP Super Saiyan Blue Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 septillion c
Early ToP SSBKKx20: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 octillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Post-First Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 octillion c
SSSBKKx20 Post-First Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98 octillion c
First and Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98 octillion c
Super Saiyan Blue Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98 octillion c
SSSBKKx20 Post-Second Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.96 nonillion c
Super Saiyan Gogeta: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.9 nonillion c
Beerus, Full Power Super Saiyan Broly, Gogeta Blue, and Third Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245 nonillion c
 
TimmyTurnero said:
Why the hell is Super Buu low multi?
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They use to scale to Kid Buu but now they scale to Buuhan making the scaling chain easier to downscale pretend the joules aren’t there but this was the original logic since Buu scaled to destroying the kaioshin realm


Buuhan is 1/50th of Kid Buu

Ultimate Gohan is over 1/2 of that for sure, as he is far above Buucilo, so he'd be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Buutenks is >= Gohan (which IMO was done better in the anime than the manga where Gohan just got stomped), so he'd also be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Super Buu is 1/2 of Buutenks, as he is SSJ3 Gotenks + Super Buu, and keep in mind that they were equal so they'd each be 1/2 of Buutenks. Thus, he'd be above 30.7 ronnafoe, which is consistent with Ultimate Gohan clapping him.
 
godofice said:
They use to scale to Kid Buu but now they scale to Buuhan making the scaling chain easier to downscale pretend the joules aren’t there but this was the original logic since Buu scaled to destroying the kaioshin realm


Buuhan is 1/50th of Kid Buu

Ultimate Gohan is over 1/2 of that for sure, as he is far above Buucilo, so he'd be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Buutenks is >= Gohan (which IMO was done better in the anime than the manga where Gohan just got stomped), so he'd also be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Super Buu is 1/2 of Buutenks, as he is SSJ3 Gotenks + Super Buu, and keep in mind that they were equal so they'd each be 1/2 of Buutenks. Thus, he'd be above 30.7 ronnafoe, which is consistent with Ultimate Gohan clapping him.
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I wonder, will your crt affect the characters scaled over Super Buu & Gotenks?
 
Gohan and Gotenks have fair reason to downscale considering the reason the finale was so high stakes is because of them not being there for the fight against Kid Buu, implying they'd at least be helpful in a combative manner. Super Buu and Buutenks downscaling is a consequence of that
 
SwordLegendz01 said:
I wonder, will your crt affect the characters scaled over Super Buu & Gotenks?
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Yeah that part got accepted so every character scaling above Super Buu and Gotenks will have that listed on their profile since it’s explained that they could do that due to their power
And that’s a shit ton of characters so it’ll take a while for it to all get in but later I’ll apply it to profiles that are already open
 
godofice said:
They use to scale to Kid Buu but now they scale to Buuhan making the scaling chain easier to downscale pretend the joules aren’t there but this was the original logic since Buu scaled to destroying the kaioshin realm


Buuhan is 1/50th of Kid Buu

Ultimate Gohan is over 1/2 of that for sure, as he is far above Buucilo, so he'd be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Buutenks is >= Gohan (which IMO was done better in the anime than the manga where Gohan just got stomped), so he'd also be far above 61.4 Ronnafoe

Super Buu is 1/2 of Buutenks, as he is SSJ3 Gotenks + Super Buu, and keep in mind that they were equal so they'd each be 1/2 of Buutenks. Thus, he'd be above 30.7 ronnafoe, which is consistent with Ultimate Gohan clapping him.
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It’s still strange to me. If his absorption is linear like this is claiming, how the hell does super buu go from 4-C to low 2-c for absorbing fat buu?

Plus if this is the case Buuhan should only be around 2x Gotenks who base Vegeta could handle, which would make fusion with patara completely contradictory no?
 
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